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Old 08-09-2020, 05:45 PM  
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:27 PM   #181
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Good luck man. HOpefully it calms down for you.
Thanks.

Scared shitless that I quit a full-time salaried job with benefits that wasn't impacted by layoffs or furloughs, but YOLO.
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:28 PM   #182
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On one hand I'm sad that this could ultimately be the death blow to academia in it's current setting because we obviously need education
You answered your own dilemma.

Academia in its current setting is nothing that anyone obviously needs.

But unfortunately I don't think this will be nearly the hand grenade many suggest it will be. Students will just do what they've been doing for about 2 decades now - take out government backed loans and pay for a product that's worth about 10% of what's being charged for it.

Only now it's only worth about 5% of what's being charged for it - so it's a marginally bigger rat-**** than it's ever been, but it's been a rat-**** for a long time now. It isn't like the average college student has proven a savvy shopper in this regard for a quite some time, so why should we expect any meaningful change to come from it?
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:31 PM   #183
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But they're gonna have students on campus?
Most schools are having students sign waivers to return to campus, as part of "Public Health Agreement and Acknowledgement of Shared Responsibility and Risk" document.

Why couldn't collegiate athletes be asked to sign similar waivers that are specific to athletics?
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:32 PM   #184
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Most schools are having students sign waivers to return to campus, as part of "Public Health Agreement and Acknowledgement of Shared Responsibility and Risk" document.

Why couldn't collegiate athletes be asked to sign similar waivers that are specific to athletics?
Or the government include liability protection in the next stimulus as some wanted them to?
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:36 PM   #185
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Most schools are having students sign waivers to return to campus, as part of "Public Health Agreement and Acknowledgement of Shared Responsibility and Risk" document.

Why couldn't collegiate athletes be asked to sign similar waivers that are specific to athletics?
NCAA banned the waivers
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Old 08-11-2020, 02:43 PM   #186
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NCAA banned the waivers
Yeah, they didn't want the liability that would ensue by allowing 18 year old kids, many of whom grew up in poverty, to sign away their rights because if an outbreak occurred that killed one or more players, the NCAA would pretty much cease to exist (which wouldn't be a bad thing but for the wrong reasons).
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:03 PM   #187
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So teams are still going to get to practice and do drill work together this fall.

Explain to me again how this is about safety?
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:11 PM   #188
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You can go ahead and pencil in no college basketball this year as well.
The Pac-12 has delayed college basketball until January 1, 2021 at the earliest.

I would expect the other leagues to follow suit.
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Old 08-11-2020, 03:12 PM   #189
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Well this is clearly what's driving the Big Ten. Myocarditis.

I've been working remotely with a Swedish guy whose whole family caught covid back in May. He said everyone got sick but not enough to go to the hospital. He's recovered now but 2 months later he still can't run a 10k, something he used to do all the time before covid.

This guy looks about 35 and in really good shape, and he wasn't all that sick.

How many studies have really been done on what this does to people who need 100% of their heart and lung capacity for athletics or athletic hobbies? Sure most people go back to work and can do normal activities. But can they still compete at extremes?
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The Pac-12 has delayed college basketball until January 1, 2021 at the earliest.



I would expect the other leagues to follow suit.
That sucks too. Iowa was looking good this year. May have short season
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Four issues dominated the report, according to a conference source:

— Viral spread.

Nine of the 11 local jurisdictions that are home to Pac-12 campuses are currently experiencing dangerous or uncontrolled levels of community spread.

— Health restrictions.

Many teams would be limited in what they could do if training camp started today — the Los Angeles schools, for instance, have been cleared by state but not county officials to allow the quarterbacks and receivers to play catch.

“To see photos of Clemson in helmets and out on the field,” said a source familiar with the varying county guidelines, “it shows how far away the Pac-12 is.”

That’s an immediate concern; there also is a longer-haul issue: contact tracing protocols.

“In some counties,” said source with knowledge of the medical team’s presentation, “local health officials would require the quarantining of the entire football team and operation with one positive case, because they all reach their threshold for close contact.”

— Myocarditis.

The condition is described by the Mayo Clinic as “an inflammation of the heart muscle (myocardium). Myocarditis can affect your heart muscle and your heart’s electrical system, reducing your heart’s ability to pump and causing rapid or abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias).”

In extreme cases, it can be life threatening, according to the Mayo Clinic.

“Severe myocarditis weakens your heart so that the rest of your body doesn’t get enough blood. Clots can form in your heart, leading to a stroke or heart attack.”

What’s more, Pac-12 officials are aware of two recent German studies that revealed “heart involvement” in 78 out of 100 recovered Covid-19 patients “and active cardiac inflammation in 60.”

“There’s not enough data,” the source explained, alluding to the medical team’s report.

“Originally, it was believed cardiac complications were only developing in those who were symptomatic, but now we are learning that is not the case.”

The source said one doctor explained to conference officials that, “We think it best to pause and learn more while others (conferences) would rather keep going as we continue to study it.”

— Testing.

The capacity, including turnaround time, simply isn’t has reached a threshold that would allow for safe competition.

“We aren’t the NFL,” the source said. “We don’t have a contract with a private lab.

“Right now, testing is a way to control the spread. It’s not an effective prevention strategy. With the quick turn-around testing, it can be that.”
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****ing pathetic that kids will be allowed on campus though. Absolutely lunacy. It makes ZERO sense!
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Old 08-11-2020, 05:56 PM   #193
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This could be the end of the Pac 12 as a Power 5 football conference.

They were already competitively and financially weaker than the other power conferences and if they don’t play again until fall 2021, the long rumored exodus of certain schools to the Big 12 will happen.

Just like when SMU got the death penalty and killed the Southwest Conference... this is now an entire conference giving itself the death penalty.

Recruits, coaches, players will flee, schools/athletic programs will hemorrhage millions of $$$ without football for potentially 19+ months.
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This could be the end of the Pac 12 as a Power 5 football conference.

They were already competitively and financial weaker than the other power conferences and if they don’t play again until fall 2021, the long rumored exodus of certain schools to the Big 12 will happen.

Just like when SMU got the death penalty and killed the Southwest Conference... this is now an entire conference giving itself the death penalty.

Recruits, coaches, players will flee, schools/athletic programs will hemorrhage millions of $$$ without football for potential 19+ months.
You're being extremely dramatic, look around most people think every conference will eventually do this.
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You're being extremely dramatic, look around most people think every conference will eventually do this.
Wrong... the ACC, SEC and Big 12 will play on this fall.
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