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08-01-2001, 04:06 PM

How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner.

The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian?

By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears.

Frazod · 08-01-2001, 10:54 PM

Jaime, I wish you luck. Remember, if your Godfather can't deliver, there's always the evile ticketbrokers at Ace. If you don't mind nosebleed seats, they shouldn't hit you too hard, and even if they do, once you're there for the first time, it will be worth the expense.

Thanks, Otter. I was starting to think I'd lost my comedic touch.

Now go wipe your nose, dammit!

Cody: What's a hizal? :confused:

philfree · 08-01-2001, 10:56 PM

I havn't read much of this thread but I know the KC Chiefs were named after the Mayor of KC.His nickname was Chief and that is who Lamar Hunt named the team after. Hardly racist!

PhilFree :cool:

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 10:58 PM

Its a house, frazod.

hip hop talk.

Raiderhater · 08-01-2001, 10:59 PM

If I have to I'll pay extra for decent seats, I want my first experience to be as good as possible (of course that means that the Chiefs have to win, otherwise It doesn't matter where I sit). But hopefully My godfather will be the answer.

I'm going to bed all, I will talk to you all later. Good night to all, and to all a good night.

Hader,
getting sleepy

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 11:02 PM

Hader,

Uh...Merry Christmas..:confused: ?

CG

kidding

Frazod · 08-01-2001, 11:02 PM

Okay, it's a house. What does that have to do with grape kool-aid?

I'm too damned old to be hip anymore. Don't even know if I ever was....

Goodnight, Jamie. I think I'll follow suit rather quickly.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 11:06 PM

Sorry about that frazod, I should have explained further,

When I said grape kool-aid is off the hizal, I mean't...

grape kool-aid is off the house.

Its good, in other words.

Sorry about that, I try not to act too stupid

Frazod · 08-01-2001, 11:09 PM

Allrighty then. Still confused as hell, but lack the mental energy to care at this point. I'll off to bed.

Goodnight to all.

Chiefs Pantalones · 08-01-2001, 11:13 PM

Good night, frazod!

KCWolfman · 08-01-2001, 11:26 PM

Falstaff is not only an angry little boy, he is misinformed as well.

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The Browns are named after DOGS - not African Americans - yet this is another clear example of the racist attitude of a typical Chiefs fan.

The Browns are the only team in the NFL directly named after a human being and the first coach of the organization, Paul Brown.

As far as a 'criminal organization', aren't you promoting our criminal activities as long as you post here?

BTW - The "Native Americans" are neither native nor american. They were indigenous to Russia and China and transplanted to the Western Hemisphere via the Bering land mass before it melted. Then they killed one another and warred until they owned the land they wanted - exactly as you whine about Occidentals doing. The term "Native American" is merely a politically correct term invented by people like you in a silly little attempt to dump guilt on someone like me for something I never did.

Finally, I have yet to hear a Nordic transplant or a Texas Horse Rancher whine about the Vikings or the Cowboys.

In the future, if you want to cry about your little causes, be accurate - it makes you at least a little plausible.

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 11:36 PM

This is a very controversial point but...

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BTW - The "Native Americans" are neither native nor american. They were indigenous to Russia and China and transplanted to the Western Hemisphere via the Bering land mass before it melted. Then they killed one another and warred until they owned the land they wanted - exactly as you whine about Occidentals doing. The term "Native American" is merely a politically correct term invented by people like you in a silly little attempt to dump guilt on someone like me for something I never did.

KCWolfman is right.... There WERE some mistakes made (Cherokee) but to make martyrs out of ALL American Indians is idiotic... if ANYONE looks objectively at what went on the Great Plains... it's pretty hard to defend the Indians as innocent victims...

Fact is... is someone attacks me with a knife and I shoot them .. am I taking advantage of them because they are technologically impaired?

I'm not saying that there weren't abuses... BUT blanket statements are ignorant at best... and racist at worst.

Lumping Indians together is equivalent to saying "Europeans."

It amazes me that the press and others are still lazy enough to do this.

--Kyle

P.S. Since I'm being politically incorrect... I'll share a little story in my next post... (cont..)

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 11:43 PM

So... I'm having an friendly argument in a bar here in Spain.. with an English girl... she was giving me grief because of some of the terms I use... like "coaster" instaed of "beer mat" or "truck" instead of "lorry"...

So I started to fight dirty and brought up American inventions and the difference between their name in England and the States... and I said that WE invented them WE should be allowed to name them.

Well.. it was all friendly until then... she than said... "We invented the language... so we're right!!"

SO I said "Well, If it wasn't for us you'd be speaking German, singing Duetchland, Duetchland, and goosestepping to work... or maybe if you were lucky.. you'd be the smallest F**ing province in the Russian Empire!!"

I've been waiting my WHOLE life to say that one.... it was great...

--Kyle

...one more story....

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 11:45 PM

This happened right after the fourth of July... when I got blind drunk... stood on the bar at an English Pub...wearing cowboy boots, a Stetson hat and an I love NY shirt.... I then proceeded to make the bartender play a cd that I had brought... "Proud to be an American (God Bless the USA)" which I sang for the entire bar!!!

needless to say... I'll probably be deported soon...

Honestly though... I've tried to give us a bad rep here in Europe... but everyone still likes me.. go figure!

--Kyle

keg in kc · 08-01-2001, 11:46 PM

Go to bed Kyle!

(Preferably not alone)

**AustinChief** · 08-01-2001, 11:51 PM

Good advice Kyle,

I'm getting a little loopy...

Well at least by the time I wake up the weekend (starts on Thursday here)
will have started!

--Kyle

08-01-2001, 04:06 PM
falstaff Guest	Chiefs are racist How can you guys be fans of a clearly racist team? Teams like the 'Redskins' and the 'Chiefs' are clearly depicting American Indians in an inappropriate manner. As if the white man has not done enough damage to the Indian culture and heritage, football teams like the Chiefs must portray Indians and their mascot and portray American Indians in a demoralizing manner. The US would never stand for team names like the 'Honkies', 'Spooks', 'RagHeads', 'WOPs', or 'Slants'. Why then should we be subjected to the desecration of the American Indian? By simply supporting this, what I consider to be a criminal organization, you are backing the negative portrayal of the American Indian. Therefore, I consider you not Chiefs fans, but racists. The path to Arrowhead Stadium is truly a Trail of Tears. Last edited by falstaff; 08-01-2001 at 04:10 PM..
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08-01-2001, 10:54 PM	#361
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Frazod's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	Jaime, I wish you luck. Remember, if your Godfather can't deliver, there's always the evile ticketbrokers at Ace. If you don't mind nosebleed seats, they shouldn't hit you too hard, and even if they do, once you're there for the first time, it will be worth the expense. Thanks, Otter. I was starting to think I'd lost my comedic touch. Now go wipe your nose, dammit! Cody: What's a hizal? :confused:
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08-01-2001, 10:56 PM	#362
philfree Indian Twitter philfree's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency	I havn't read much of this thread but I know the KC Chiefs were named after the Mayor of KC.His nickname was Chief and that is who Lamar Hunt named the team after. Hardly racist! PhilFree :cool:
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08-01-2001, 10:58 PM	#363
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	Its a house, frazod. hip hop talk.
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08-01-2001, 10:59 PM	#364
Raiderhater **** the Raiders Raiderhater's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos	If I have to I'll pay extra for decent seats, I want my first experience to be as good as possible (of course that means that the Chiefs have to win, otherwise It doesn't matter where I sit). But hopefully My godfather will be the answer. I'm going to bed all, I will talk to you all later. Good night to all, and to all a good night. Hader, getting sleepy
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08-01-2001, 11:02 PM	#365
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	Hader, Uh...Merry Christmas..:confused: ? CG kidding
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08-01-2001, 11:02 PM	#366
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Frazod's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	Okay, it's a house. What does that have to do with grape kool-aid? I'm too damned old to be hip anymore. Don't even know if I ever was.... Goodnight, Jamie. I think I'll follow suit rather quickly.
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08-01-2001, 11:06 PM	#367
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	Sorry about that frazod, I should have explained further, When I said grape kool-aid is off the hizal, I mean't... grape kool-aid is off the house. Its good, in other words. Sorry about that, I try not to act too stupid
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08-01-2001, 11:09 PM	#368
Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Frazod's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	Allrighty then. Still confused as hell, but lack the mental energy to care at this point. I'll off to bed. Goodnight to all.
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08-01-2001, 11:13 PM	#369
Chiefs Pantalones GO CHIEFS!!!!!! Chiefs Pantalones's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Kansas City	Good night, frazod!
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08-01-2001, 11:43 PM	#372
AustinChief Administrator AustinChief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin	So... I'm having an friendly argument in a bar here in Spain.. with an English girl... she was giving me grief because of some of the terms I use... like "coaster" instaed of "beer mat" or "truck" instead of "lorry"... So I started to fight dirty and brought up American inventions and the difference between their name in England and the States... and I said that WE invented them WE should be allowed to name them. Well.. it was all friendly until then... she than said... "We invented the language... so we're right!!" SO I said "Well, If it wasn't for us you'd be speaking German, singing Duetchland, Duetchland, and goosestepping to work... or maybe if you were lucky.. you'd be the smallest F**ing province in the Russian Empire!!" I've been waiting my WHOLE life to say that one.... it was great... --Kyle ...one more story....
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08-01-2001, 11:45 PM	#373
AustinChief Administrator AustinChief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin	This happened right after the fourth of July... when I got blind drunk... stood on the bar at an English Pub...wearing cowboy boots, a Stetson hat and an I love NY shirt.... I then proceeded to make the bartender play a cd that I had brought... "Proud to be an American (God Bless the USA)" which I sang for the entire bar!!! needless to say... I'll probably be deported soon... Honestly though... I've tried to give us a bad rep here in Europe... but everyone still likes me.. go figure! --Kyle
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08-01-2001, 11:46 PM	#374
keg in kc oxymoron keg in kc's Avatar Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: OP/KC/Whatever	Go to bed Kyle! (Preferably not alone)
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08-01-2001, 11:51 PM	#375
AustinChief Administrator AustinChief's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin	Good advice Kyle, I'm getting a little loopy... Well at least by the time I wake up the weekend (starts on Thursday here) will have started! --Kyle
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