***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The fact is there is some politics to this. The media and our politicians have seen to that. Even the other day when Gov. Kelly gave her presser on masks in Ks she had to say "even Republicans are wearing masks here... ". That shit doesn't help. FTR I know people both D & R that are fer masks and people both D & R that are gin' em'.

For the most part I think we have kept this thread free of politics about as well as you can. I wouldn't have banned Mecca, at least not a perma-ban but not my call.

So, it's pretty clearly not political.

[TLO]

Deaths at 615 on Worldomoters today. I'm old enough to remember when we'd get excited if we came in under 1000 on a weekend.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

So, it's pretty clearly not political.

I think for some it is. You see it on the intrawebs. I don't think it is as political as some thing meaning only D''s want masks and only R's don't want masks. But that's not really a discussion to have here nor one that I even care to have at all.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Deaths at 615 on Worldomoters today. I'm old enough to remember when we'd get excited if we came in under 1000 on a weekend.

819 is the number we want to stay under......

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

The hell I do. I think you need to check yourself, bro.

Yea right, only all the ones where you'll posy something only to say but that's getting political, or I was being sarcastic. That's just a couple ways you do it.

[petegz28]

And now ComiCon just got canceled.....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Yea right, only all the ones where you'll posy something only to say but that's getting political, or I was being sarcastic. That's just a couple ways you do it.

Don't be pissed at me because someone else called you out. That's not my problem. Least you can do is own your shit without pointing fingers at someone else.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Don't be pissed at me because someone else called you out. That's not my problem. Least you can do is own your shit without pointing fingers at someone else.

That's just it, I am pointing a finger at you. You do that shit all the time in this thread. Even if what you post isn't blatantly political you walk right up to the line and spit across it.
That's all I'm going to say about it, I don't want to derail this anymore than it has been.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

That's just it, I am pointing a finger at you. You do that shit all the time in this thread. Even if what you post isn't blatantly political you walk right up to the line and spit across it.
That's all I'm going to say about it, I don't want to derail this anymore than it has been.

Yeah, we know what you're doing. Someone called you out and you are mad so you wanna point your finger at someone else.

That's probably all you should say about it. I've been called out for a lot of things in this thread, getting political ain't one of them.

Sorry, Pal.

[stevieray]

if masks can't stop drywall dust, it's not going to stop covid.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yeah, we know what you're doing. Someone called you out and you are mad so you wanna point your finger at someone else.

That's probably all you should say about it. I've been called out for a lot of things in this thread, getting political ain't one of them.

Sorry, Pal.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by stevieray

if masks can't stop drywall dust, it's not going to stop covid.

Only thing I've ever used is the particle masks, and it's in large part that they don't fit well over the nose. Or maybe it's just my nose is too damn big...


I bought a washable one with replaceable filters from Amazon (the one I'm wearing in my avatar) but I haven't had any significant drywall jobs to try it out on.



Have you used anything other than a particle mask?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by stevieray

if masks can't stop drywall dust, it's not going to stop covid.

And what if you put a mask on the drywall and the person working?

Plus 6 feet of distance between the masked worker and the drywall that is wearing a mask?

[Bugeater]

You'd need 6 foot arms to sand drywall that is 6 feet away.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by stevieray

if masks can't stop drywall dust, it's not going to stop covid.

Not even N95 masks are designed to stop everything... but, that doesn't mean they're useless either.