Official 2017 NBA Off Season Thread

[Al Bundy]

Sources: Charlotte is sending Miles Plumlee, Marco Belenelli and 41st pick to Atlanta for Dwight Howard and 31st pick.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@WojVerticalNBA) June 21, 2017

The Celtics and 76ers have agreed to a trade that will send the #1 pick to Philly, who plan on drafting Markelle Fultz (@daldridgetnt)

— NBA Central (@TheNBACentral) June 18, 2017

The draft is June 22nd.

[Unsmooth-Moment]

Seems like a pretty fair trade. Tough to give up that nets pick though.

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[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That'd be interesting to see Isiah's scoring with LeBron's passing. They'd be very tough to stop offensively but that wasn't the Cavs problem last year and Isiah's D isn't the best because of his height.

Fail trade for the Cavs but hey at least they get rid of the crybaby Irving.

Have you ever been right about anything

[dls6501]

Failing to see how this is a good trade for Boston.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That's a really good trade for Cleveland. Irving is a better player than Thomas, who is literally the worst defensive player in the league, but Kyrie is a terrible defender in his own right. Thomas is a legitimate scorer who is only slightly less efficient than Irving.

Key to the deal is Crowder, who is a good enough defender to take the primary scorer, resting LeBron. That, along with a 2018 first from the Nets that is unprotected (and likely a top-5 pick) is a hell of a haul for a guy that everyone knew wanted out.

Now Irving can fulfill his destiny of being a miniature Dominique Wilkins.

great take, per usual.

[mcaj22]

I actually think the Cavs get better and will still come out of the East, so if the point for Boston was to beat the Cavs, they just failed miserably.


IT/Lebron/Crowder/Love/TT is a good unit, you can now play small with Love or TT at the 5 and slide Crowder to the 4 and have a combo of IT, JR, Korver and Lebron all on the floor.

Crowder is the A+ defender Lebron has needed since Miami. Could get him over the hump next year a compete a little better.

Boston says thanks for your service IT, Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder but you're all expendable. Has to be a kick in the ass for all of them because Boston was the pits until they helped turn it around.

[KC_Connection]

Also, what if this move is a deciding factor in LeBron staying in Cleveland? It's unlikely but they at least have an argument next offseason now and good pieces to sell him on. Boston might never even be the best team in the East for any period of time if that happens.

What an utter fail by Ainge.

[Urc Burry]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Also, what if this move is a deciding factor in LeBron staying in Cleveland? It's unlikely but they at least have an argument next offseason now and good pieces to sell him on. Boston might never even be the best team in the East for any period of time if that happens.

What an utter fail by Ainge.

If Lebron stays that pick surely gets moved again right? His window isn't going to stay open forever

[okcchief]

Great haul for Cleveland especially considering the circumstances.

Now Wiggins want out of Minnesota? The soap opera never ends lol


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I got bad info it appears as I'm reading Wiggins just cut ties with his agent. Not quite the same.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Also, what if this move is a deciding factor in LeBron staying in Cleveland? It's unlikely but they at least have an argument next offseason now and good pieces to sell him on. Boston might never even be the best team in the East for any period of time if that happens.

What an utter fail by Ainge.

I agree it's an utter fail. I don't see LeBron committing to a Dan Gilbert team ever again though. I think he's gone, and they've set themselves up to max IT and have a top 3 pick next year to start the re-tool.

IT, Love, Crowder and a top 3 pick should be good enough for a guaranteed 5 seed in the East.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I agree it's an utter fail. I don't see LeBron committing to a Dan Gilbert team ever again though. I think he's gone, and they've set themselves up to max IT and have a top 3 pick next year to start the re-tool.

IT, Love, Crowder and a top 3 pick should be good enough for a guaranteed 5 seed in the East.

Yeah, I think LeBron is gone too. But there is at least something to sell him on now where there wasn't before.

If LeBron goes, it is also possible that they just let IT go and completely rebuild with the Nets pick. Plenty of options now thanks to Ainge.

[mcaj22]

Ainge gifted his only competition in the East a present and a future.

he sat on that Brooklyn pick and refused to use it in trades for other players and he gift wraps it to the Cavs lol

[-King-]

Ainge always seems to go overboard and add something he didn't need to add. Did he really need to trade the nets pick unprotected to get the deal done?
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[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

Ainge gifted his only competition in the East a present and a future.

he sat on that Brooklyn pick and refused to use it in trades for other players and he gift wraps it to the Cavs lol

Shit, I thought this was bad even before I heard definitively it was the Nets pick (which is by far the most valuable part of the trade for the Cavs). How do you not trade for Butler (for a considerably lesser package) and do this instead?

[mcaj22]

does IT come off the bench for the Cavs? No way him and Rose can share a backcourt right?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

does IT come off the bench for the Cavs? No way him and Rose can share a backcourt right?

Derrick Rose is terrible, so I can't see it. But it is difficult to play IT at the end of games because of what a horrible defender he is, so Rose might be out there then.