Believe it or not, Veach isn’t don’t yet.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by Bill Brasky

I can't even imagine the scenario where Hunt lets Veach walk. His toughest job yet is the next 10 years. We're going to need to draft at a very high level to keep winning.

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

Jury is still out on 2018. 1st round used to get Mahomes in 2017. Speaks still has a chance. Nandi is a keeper. Watts is not horrible.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Coogs

Jury is still out on 2018. 1st round used to get Mahomes in 2017. Speaks still has a chance. Nandi is a keeper. Watts is not horrible.

The jury came back after the AFCCG.

The Chiefs failed to add a single difference maker on defense, and the rookie class was so bad that year Andrew Wylie, who wasn’t even drafted, won the team’s rookie of the year.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

The jury came back after the AFCCG.

The Chiefs failed to add a single difference maker on defense, and the rookie class was so bad that year Andrew Wylie, who wasn’t even drafted, won the team’s rookie of the year.

Don't dagree.

Mahomes always figures into the 18 draft. Needed that chip to get him in 17.
Nandi is a huge piece of the D-line
Speaks still could be.
Watts and DOD are still pieces that contribute. ST's count too. As does depth.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

Take a look at the 2018 draft overall and you'll see that it wasn't a year that was particularly loaded.

It's certainly not like the 2017 draft in which Dorsey could have taken JuJu or Kamara over Tanoh or George Kittle and Desmond King over Jehu Chesson.

Some years are just better than others for overall talent.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Take a look at the 2018 draft overall and you'll see that it wasn't a year that was particularly loaded.

It's certainly not like the 2017 draft in which Dorsey could have taken JuJu or Kamara over Tanoh or George Kittle and Desmond King over Jehu Chesson.

Some years are just better than others for overall talent.

2018 isn't the greatest draft in Chiefs history, but even then time has shown that it wasn't the worst, either.

Derrick Nnadi is a pretty damn good player. He's started every single game as a pro, and he earned all of those starts by winning the job under two entirely different coaching staffs. Daly and Spags didn't owe Nnadi jack shit in 2019-- he had to earn that starting spot at NT, which he did.

We got a starter out of the draft, and we're going to get 4 complete seasons of cheap yet solid play out of him. No redshirt years.

You usually hope to get more out of that in any particular draft, and while it's true that Speaks, Watts, and O'Daniel could all get cut this offseason, it's more likely we'll get 2 of them to stick around and at least provide some depth (not sure about O'Daniel at this point).

In any case, it sure beats Pioli's first draft as GM.

[Coogs]

All of those defenders in the 18 class had Bob in 18, and Spags in 19. This year will start to tell the overall grade on that class. The Mahomes piece needed from that year and Nnadi make the draft solid. Speaks, DOD, and Watts have a chance to make it a pretty damn good draft.

It's the trade for Speaks that irritates everyone. He has a chance to silence those critics this season. Playing out of position under Bob shouldn't be factored in. Nor should pulling up on the tackle on Brady the way flags were flying at that time in that season.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

2018 isn't the greatest draft in Chiefs history, but even then time has shown that it wasn't the worst, either.

Derrick Nnadi is a pretty damn good player. He's started every single game as a pro, and he earned all of those starts by winning the job under two entirely different coaching staffs. Daly and Spags didn't owe Nnadi jack shit in 2019-- he had to earn that starting spot at NT, which he did.

We got a starter out of the draft, and we're going to get 4 complete seasons of cheap yet solid play out of him. No redshirt years.

You usually hope to get more out of that in any particular draft, and while it's true that Speaks, Watts, and O'Daniel could all get cut this offseason, it's more likely we'll get 2 of them to stick around and at least provide some depth (not sure about O'Daniel at this point).

In any case, it sure beats Pioli's first draft as GM.

Nnadi was a brilliant pick. I remember some folks wanting Kirk in round 2, while others of us opined for a TE (I liked Goedert as I saw him play in college, and others liked Andrews out of OU).

I like Speaks, but Veach chose him over some guys that even fans could see as more viable options.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

2018 isn't the greatest draft in Chiefs history, but even then time has shown that it wasn't the worst, either.

Derrick Nnadi is a pretty damn good player. He's started every single game as a pro, and he earned all of those starts by winning the job under two entirely different coaching staffs. Daly and Spags didn't owe Nnadi jack shit in 2019-- he had to earn that starting spot at NT, which he did.

We got a starter out of the draft, and we're going to get 4 complete seasons of cheap yet solid play out of him. No redshirt years.

You usually hope to get more out of that in any particular draft, and while it's true that Speaks, Watts, and O'Daniel could all get cut this offseason, it's more likely we'll get 2 of them to stick around and at least provide some depth (not sure about O'Daniel at this point).

In any case, it sure beats Pioli's first draft as GM.

Everybody always forgets Veach’s best move in 2018. Getting Charvarious Ward for a broken down Parker Ehinger was a huge steal. He’s not even getting $1 million a season.

Chris Harris Jr even said last week that he thinks Ward is one of the better young corners in the game.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

As long as he never dips to 2018 levels again we'll be fine.

Unless we don’t have a 1st round pick in a weak draft, it won’t.