Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum
Reload this Page Trade Targets
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-17-2024, 01:09 PM  
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Trade Targets
So we know they like to come back to guys that were taken other spots that they may have liked in the draft.

With Wharton playing his way out contractually, we're gonna need some interior DL help next year as well as likely some DE help.

So who would you look around at that has underperformed that could be reclaimed?
Posts: 82,823
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 01:14 PM   #2
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Like say....would the Giants be interested in moving Thibodeaux? Surely not. Or are the Jags gonna blow it up, no way they'd wanna move Walker?
Posts: 82,823
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 01:32 PM   #3
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Do we need to trade to execute that?

The Chiefs depth chart for next year at DL, currently under contract:

DE: Karlaftis, Danna, FAU, Cam Thomas
DT: Jones

RFA: Herring
UFA: Omenihu, Wharton, Pennel, Nnadi, Tuipulotu

I do think that Wharton has played himself out, but I'd strongly consider giving Omenihu another 2 year deal. FAU seems to be coming along. You can bring Pennel and Nnadi back easily.
Posts: 59,533
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 01:35 PM   #4
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
Do we need to trade to execute that?

The Chiefs depth chart for next year at DL, currently under contract:

DE: Karlaftis, Danna, FAU, Cam Thomas
DT: Jones

RFA: Herring
UFA: Omenihu, Wharton, Pennel, Nnadi, Tuipulotu

I do think that Wharton has played himself out, but I'd strongly consider giving Omenihu another 2 year deal. FAU seems to be coming along. You can bring Pennel and Nnadi back easily.
I'm struggling to pencil in Omenihu wanting to stay around, especially if he has a big year.

I'd also not count much on Cam Thomas yet.

Having an ass kicker next to Jones like Wharton is huge.
Posts: 82,823
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 01:38 PM   #5
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
I agree on Wharton, but really what his emergence has done is forced Spags to sideline reducing DEs like Danna down into DT. Danna generates some heat from the interior, so if we lose Wharton but strengthen the outside rush by bringing Omenihu back, I think you've maintained the Chiefs good rush.
Posts: 59,533
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 01:55 PM   #6
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Not seeing alot... maybe Phidarian Mathis, Zacch Pickens, Alex Wright, Brodrick Martin...

2023 was a good DT draft... as good as there has been in a while... and Veach severely miscalculated. I'd probably guess he's going to address it in FA again.
Posts: 12,761
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 02:22 PM   #7
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
Not seeing alot... maybe Phidarian Mathis, Zacch Pickens, Alex Wright, Brodrick Martin...

2023 was a good DT draft... as good as there has been in a while... and Veach severely miscalculated. I'd probably guess he's going to address it in FA again.
The Chiefs arguably have the best DT corps in the league right now.

They are close to the hardest group to run on in the NFL, and two Chiefs DTs have the best passrush quality in the entire NFL among DTs.
Posts: 59,533
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 03:06 PM   #8
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
Not seeing alot... maybe Phidarian Mathis, Zacch Pickens, Alex Wright, Brodrick Martin...

2023 was a good DT draft... as good as there has been in a while... and Veach severely miscalculated. I'd probably guess he's going to address it in FA again.
Yep.

Man....Travis Jones woulda been a nice one to have had here.
Posts: 82,823
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2024, 03:06 PM   #9
kccrow kccrow is offline
MVP
 
kccrow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Michigan
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun View Post
The Chiefs arguably have the best DT corps in the league right now.

They are close to the hardest group to run on in the NFL, and two Chiefs DTs have the best passrush quality in the entire NFL among DTs.
It was an enormous chance that happens to be paying off. They get by with alot of chances because of Chris Jones.

We're a hard defense to run on but the only quality cog against the run at DT is Pennell and, hopefully, he doesn't wear down.

Wharton playing beyond his normal gives solid balance. Jones is still Jones and Nnadi still is ass.

All except Jones are on one-year contracts, of which the only one you're likely trying to bring back next year is Wharton.

One of those rookies from 2023 would be paying dividends now and for the next few seasons. I think the two things can be relatively exclusive. Just because the route Veach took is working (pray nothing happens to Jones), doesn't mean he probably shouldn't have built the depth there the past couple of seasons to be a little more future-looking.
Posts: 12,761
kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.kccrow 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2024, 11:08 AM   #10
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Omenihu has been super vocal on Twitter the last year about "getting what he deserves" so I think he'll end up going to the highest bidder no matter where it is.

Veach did make a clear effort to retain the DL this offseason, curious if that continues into the next offseason.
Posts: 20,075
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-18-2024, 03:18 PM   #11
Palangi Palangi is offline
Starter
 
Palangi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2021
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
So we know they like to come back to guys that were taken other spots that they may have liked in the draft.

With Wharton playing his way out contractually, we're gonna need some interior DL help next year as well as likely some DE help.

So who would you look around at that has underperformed that could be reclaimed?
I think Marlon Tuipolotu and Fabian Lovette are guys that can be looked at next year too
Posts: 311
Palangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutPalangi is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2024, 08:41 AM   #12
Direckshun Direckshun is offline
__
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dante84 View Post
Omenihu has been super vocal on Twitter the last year about "getting what he deserves" so I think he'll end up going to the highest bidder no matter where it is.

Veach did make a clear effort to retain the DL this offseason, curious if that continues into the next offseason.
That's exactly what Omenihu should be doing.

The thing is, he was suspended in 2023, and will miss half of this season in 2024.

Teams may not be interested in forking a ton for that. But if we are so inclined, we could offer 2 years for $20m and that may be the best deal he can get.
Posts: 59,533
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-19-2024, 07:23 PM   #13
Vladimir_Kyrilytch Vladimir_Kyrilytch is online now
Veteran
 
Vladimir_Kyrilytch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2021
Is direckshun a homosexual? I think he is. It explains his effeminate mannerisms. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Outside the book of Leviticus and the book of Romans, very little backlash to that.
Posts: 2,676
Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Vladimir_Kyrilytch has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
     Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2024, 11:00 AM   #14
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch View Post
Is direckshun a homosexual? I think he is. It explains his effeminate mannerisms. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Outside the book of Leviticus and the book of Romans, very little backlash to that.
Well, according to Leviticus, eating shrimp is an abomination, too. I see you mother ****er! At the Chinese buffet, eating all the shrimp!
Posts: 18,052
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 10-24-2024, 11:18 PM   #15
JPH83 JPH83 is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2021
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
It was an enormous chance that happens to be paying off. They get by with alot of chances because of Chris Jones.

We're a hard defense to run on but the only quality cog against the run at DT is Pennell and, hopefully, he doesn't wear down.

Wharton playing beyond his normal gives solid balance. Jones is still Jones and Nnadi still is ass.

All except Jones are on one-year contracts, of which the only one you're likely trying to bring back next year is Wharton.

One of those rookies from 2023 would be paying dividends now and for the next few seasons. I think the two things can be relatively exclusive. Just because the route Veach took is working (pray nothing happens to Jones), doesn't mean he probably shouldn't have built the depth there the past couple of seasons to be a little more future-looking.
Agree with all of this. We've got away with it a bit, which I guess is vindication of sorts for the approach. Letting Coburn walk was a mistake imo.

I absolutely wouldn't bring Omenihu back, not close to worth it, especially with the injuries. But, I would like to see some investment in the position.

Man, I liked Travis Jones, think he was my preference over the Cook pick if I remember.
Posts: 3,824
JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.JPH83 must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 2 1 2

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room > Saccopoo Memorial Draft Forum < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:26 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.