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Old 07-20-2018, 11:48 AM   #2
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They are saying that 17 are dead including kids. The video of it is heartbreaking.

Makes you wonder if people have any common sense. You don't go out on the water with a storm approaching-period. Why would these people get in there with their kids and why in the world would the drivers do it as well? They live at the lake and know how dangerous it is during storms. What a tragedy, one that could have easily been avoided.
We don't know how long they had been on the water. The reports say that the severe t-storm warning was given 30 minutes before they capsized.

Does anyone know how long those tours usually are? I assume they are at least an hour.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:00 PM   #3
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They are saying that 17 are dead including kids. The video of it is heartbreaking.

Makes you wonder if people have any common sense. You don't go out on the water with a storm approaching-period. Why would these people get in there with their kids and why in the world would the drivers do it as well? They live at the lake and know how dangerous it is during storms. What a tragedy, one that could have easily been avoided.
Its not like you get in the Duck at the edge of the water. They probably boarded that thing 45 mins earlier, took a drive up and down a mtn, then entered the water about 15 mins before everything went to shit. Sadly, most people are too trusting. "We wouldn'tbe out here if it wasn't safe..."
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:09 PM   #4
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Its not like you get in the Duck at the edge of the water. They probably boarded that thing 45 mins earlier, took a drive up and down a mtn, then entered the water about 15 mins before everything went to shit. Sadly, most people are too trusting. "We wouldn'tbe out here if it wasn't safe..."
Do the Duck boats even have Life Preservers or vest? It really seems to be a high mortality rate even considering the storm conditions.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:28 PM   #5
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Do the Duck boats even have Life Preservers or vest? It really seems to be a high mortality rate even considering the storm conditions.
Yeah, they are small and strapped to the ceiling.

I figures I'd need like 3 to get my large ass to float.

My wife and I are really aware people. We always check everything out, hech my wife is always packing and has turnicates and shit, its weird, a little too serious sfor me to be honest. Now the one we were on didn't have plexiglass sides so if shit hit the fan I would have been out the window and either get to the branson belle or the little island they go around out in the water.

Had I been out on that thing I would have been communicating with the driver and captain in that situation. I'd be shocked if those people didn't have the life vests on. I think the main issue is that they couldn't get out. And if you did you are going to be pushed near a giant paddelwheeler.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:36 PM   #6
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Yeah, they are small and strapped to the ceiling.

I figures I'd need like 3 to get my large ass to float.

My wife and I are really aware people. We always check everything out, hech my wife is always packing and has turnicates and shit, its weird, a little too serious sfor me to be honest. Now the one we were on didn't have plexiglass sides so if shit hit the fan I would have been out the window and either get to the branson belle or the little island they go around out in the water.

Had I been out on that thing I would have been communicating with the driver and captain in that situation. I'd be shocked if those people didn't have the life vests on. I think the main issue is that they couldn't get out. And if you did you are going to be pushed near a giant paddelwheeler.
It is not weird at all. Very smart actually. You always have to be prepared.

Sounds like those vest were the bare minimum and did not help much in those terrible conditions. I did not realize they had no way to exit the boats. I thought they were open-air windows?
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Old 07-21-2018, 03:05 AM   #7
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Yeah, they are small and strapped to the ceiling.

I figures I'd need like 3 to get my large ass to float.

My wife and I are really aware people. We always check everything out, hech my wife is always packing and has turnicates and shit, its weird, a little too serious sfor me to be honest. Now the one we were on didn't have plexiglass sides so if shit hit the fan I would have been out the window and either get to the branson belle or the little island they go around out in the water.

Had I been out on that thing I would have been communicating with the driver and captain in that situation. I'd be shocked if those people didn't have the life vests on. I think the main issue is that they couldn't get out. And if you did you are going to be pushed near a giant paddelwheeler.
So let's say these boats were made with floating roofs that are designed to come off if the boat sinks. Do you think most people would live in that case? If so that seems like a pretty simple fix to me.
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Old 07-21-2018, 09:16 AM   #8
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So let's say these boats were made with floating roofs that are designed to come off if the boat sinks. Do you think most people would live in that case? If so that seems like a pretty simple fix to me.
Depends on the people. Their age, their physical stamina, their swimming ability, and their ability to avoid the freeze part of flight, fight, or freeze while in a crisis. Generally speaking, it would be a better option to have a removable roof to avoid the trapping effect that occurs with these "boats". On this particular vessel, there were a bunch of elderly, very young, and African Americans who historically have a higher chance of being poor swimmers(and anybody can **** off with any racism claims, look it up). Very likely most who died may have died anyway.
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Old 07-20-2018, 12:32 PM   #9
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Its not like you get in the Duck at the edge of the water. They probably boarded that thing 45 mins earlier, took a drive up and down a mtn, then entered the water about 15 mins before everything went to shit. Sadly, most people are too trusting. "We wouldn'tbe out here if it wasn't safe..."
Wonder if these guys even had radios to provide updates on the trip/tour etc.
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:05 PM   #10
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Wonder if these guys even had radios to provide updates on the trip/tour etc.
I know they used to. my ex-wife spent a summer as the photographer at branson landing for ride the ducks (one of their two branson locations at that time) and they had radios (believe they were cb radios, don't quote me on that one) back then.

I will say, having been on one of the boats, they do offer you life vests but nobody puts them on... and table rock lake doesn't get that rough that often in my experience... that said, no way should they have let them on the water. poster before was correct, it's like an hour total for a duck ride
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Old 07-20-2018, 01:44 PM   #11
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I know they used to. my ex-wife spent a summer as the photographer at branson landing for ride the ducks (one of their two branson locations at that time) and they had radios (believe they were cb radios, don't quote me on that one) back then.

I will say, having been on one of the boats, they do offer you life vests but nobody puts them on... and table rock lake doesn't get that rough that often in my experience... that said, no way should they have let them on the water. poster before was correct, it's like an hour total for a duck ride
The time on the water is much less but i don't know how long.
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