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Old 01-27-2017, 08:06 PM  
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Official 2017 STL Cardinals Thread

My as well get it started. Here's my "Matheny" lineup.....

Fowler CF
Diaz SS
Carpenter 1B
Piscotty RF
Grichuk LF
Molina C
Peralta 3B
Wong 2B
Pitcher

My "Matheny" Starting rotation

Martinez
Reyes
Wainwright
Lynn
Leake
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:55 AM   #1171
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I cant believe they were able to move that contract. I wonder how much $ we are paying them.
$17 million.

What a ****ing debacle. If this is the shit that gets Mozeliak promoted, would actually being good at his job have yielded a transfer of ownership?

Mozeliak is ass.
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:57 AM   #1172
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$17 million.

What a ****ing debacle. If this is the shit that gets Mozeliak promoted, would actually being good at his job have yielded a transfer of ownership?

Mozeliak is ass.
Pretty bad when its worth $17MM to unload a shitty pitcher.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:17 PM   #1173
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$17 million.

What a ****ing debacle. If this is the shit that gets Mozeliak promoted, would actually being good at his job have yielded a transfer of ownership?

Mozeliak is ass.
money well spent to get rid of his weak ass pitching. Still doesn't absolve them of the money spent in the first place but still, glad he's gone.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:20 PM   #1174
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Should still let him walk. You can't give a 31 yr old 3rd starter $100 million when the only thing your organization can develop is pitching.

Lynn needs to go and the money needs to be spent on the lineup.

I still can't believe they are steadfastly opposed to taking on Stantons contract. He's exactly what they need.
I agree. We have pitching. We need to spend the money on offense.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:27 PM   #1175
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Should still let him walk. You can't give a 31 yr old 3rd starter $100 million when the only thing your organization can develop is pitching.

Lynn needs to go and the money needs to be spent on the lineup.

I still can't believe they are steadfastly opposed to taking on Stantons contract. He's exactly what they need.
This tbh
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Old 08-30-2017, 05:17 PM   #1176
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My boy Flaherty to get Leakes place in the rotation. Starts the Saturday game against San Fran.

https://www.milb.com/milb/news/st-lo...42/t-185364810
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:43 PM   #1177
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:51 PM   #1178
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Stanton and Machado
riiiiight
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Old 08-30-2017, 08:55 PM   #1179
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Why not


Gotta keep the powder dry for something
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:32 PM   #1180
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I'm just glad they got rid of that mother****er, and I don't care that they had to kick in money to do it. I would have absolutely no faith in him in any big situation, and given that the Cardinals have a lot of SP depth in the system, he's much less valuable to us than his WAR would indicate.
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Old 08-31-2017, 02:12 PM   #1181
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Matheny sheaths his sword and wipes the blood off his hands...

"The job is done..."

Kevin Siegrist DFA'd after Matheny spent 4 years trying to ensure that the 2013 version of Siegrist is never more than a fond memory.

Just another scalp for him. It's hard to keep track of how many relievers he's burned through; he pretty much grinds 2 of them into dust every year. I know it's a volatile role but nobody churns through them like Mikey Dreamboat.
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:10 AM   #1182
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Matheny sheaths his sword and wipes the blood off his hands...

"The job is done..."

Kevin Siegrist DFA'd after Matheny spent 4 years trying to ensure that the 2013 version of Siegrist is never more than a fond memory.

Just another scalp for him. It's hard to keep track of how many relievers he's burned through; he pretty much grinds 2 of them into dust every year. I know it's a volatile role but nobody churns through them like Mikey Dreamboat.
Just in time for some fresh meat to arrive. Alcantara called up.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:02 AM   #1183
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Just in time for some fresh meat to arrive. Alcantara called up.
He has to finish off Bowman first. Then I figure he'll set his sights on Lyons.

But don't worry - he'll get to Alcantara soon enough. The only hope for a relief pitcher on this team is that we dump enough old, overpaid starting pitchers to hide them in the rotation.

Martinez would've been put out to pasture last year had we not traded away Shelby Miller. God, can you imagine how badly Matheny would've tortured that guy in relief? He'd come out amped up and throwing 100 mph with movement and Matheny would have him throwing 4 times/week. I'm guessing he'd have hit 80-85 appearances and at least a couple dozen of them on zero days rest. By September he'd have finally broken down after throwing for the 10th time in 12 days (this actually happened with Jordan Walden; Duke was thrown 10 times in 13 days before he broke down last September).

Matheny finds 3 guys, they're the only 3 guys he uses, then he destroys their careers. He'd have absolutely done that to Martinez when Rosenthal was struggling last year.
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Old 09-01-2017, 11:31 AM   #1184
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Just in time for some fresh meat to arrive. Alcantara called up.
2018 closer?
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Old 09-01-2017, 01:28 PM   #1185
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2018 closer?
God I hope not.

Because Matheny isn't clever enough to come up with an alternative if Alcantara actually succeeds. 5 years later he'll still be in the 9th throwing one pitch while everything he's learned has atrophied.

He'll go from a potential ace starter with a 3-4 pitch arsenal to a volatile back-end option who will need surgery in 4 years after Matheny wrecks him.

Rosenthal is a model of what NOT to do to an elite starting pitcher prospect. 98 mph fastball with life, arguably the best curveball in the organization and a developing changeup. We stick him in the bullpen, forget all about the fact that he wrecked shit as a starter and has the frame to carry 200 innings, let his secondary pitches atrophy in short bursts of work and then end up non-tendering him.

That kid could've been Syndergaard and we absolutely ruined him.

If they're going to put starting pitchers in the bullpen, at least let them fail as starters first. In other words, toss Wacha out there or even Wainwright. Do not bury kids with top of the rotation ceilings in the bullpen because they'll become Matheny's pet until he kills them.

He's ****ing Lennie and relief pitchers are his bunnies. "I shall love him and squeeze him and call him George..." and then the ****ing reeruned window licker squishes them to death. Again.

The organization's response? Nah, let's not replace him with someone that doesn't crush their little skulls...lets just get him more ****ing rabbits.

God this team is stupid.
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