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Old 04-10-2024, 09:01 AM   #2
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Damn. UK is (potentially) back.
He was there for 15 years and only 30 of his guys ****ing graduated? WOW. I don't even.

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Isn't Scott Drew a big time bible thumper?

That doesn't really jive with what Sucky is. They need a scummy con-man at the helm. They are going to get Chris Beard. And they'll like it.
Man, Chris Beard would be an annoyingly good hire. Unless he's just all the way off the wagon now.
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Old 04-10-2024, 09:55 AM   #3
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Drew in 2024 is better than Calipari in 2024, yes.

I don't think a majority of people realize what he's done at Baylor was nothing short of a miracle. He inherited a program that was on probation for his first 7 years as HC, which also included the loss of scholarships for multiple seasons and the inability to play non-conference games for a season.

He recruits at a high level. Not as high as Calipari, who is probably the greatest recruiter of all time, but still very, very well. His teams also are very good offensively and defensively.

I get the criticism that he hasn't made the second weekend that often, but it's ****ing Baylor, and he has been there multiple times and likely would have been in contention for another second weekend or Final Four appearance in 2020.

The only reservation I have is his personality. It's a fishbowl in Lexington with the scrutiny he'd be under. I'm not sure how he'd handle that.

He isn't Dan Hurley, but he's a pretty damn good coach in his own right.
Tournament is a complete crapshoot, it doesn't matter. He's been a top 5 coach now for at least the past 5 years. Realistically, I don't know that they could do much better (after Hurley says no).
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Old 04-10-2024, 10:03 AM   #4
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Tournament is a complete crapshoot, it doesn't matter. He's been a top 5 coach now for at least the past 5 years. Realistically, I don't know that they could do much better (after Hurley says no).
The tournament is a crapshoot, yes, but it's also largest part in evaluating the season.

Cal wouldn't have had the fanbase turn on him if he won or made the natty in 2022. Instead, he hadn't made the second weekend since 2019, had arguably the worst season in program history, 1 tournament win, and losses to a 14 and 15 seed in the first seed, including with a 2022 team that by all accounts was a top 8 team based off of seeding and the regular season.

If Drew only makes the second weekend once in 5 years in Lexington, with no Final Fours or titles, he's going to be ran out of town. Just like Cal. Just like Tubby, who had weaker regular season teams at the end of his tenure but still made it to the second weekend 6 out of 10 seasons.

And I'm in agreement with you. Hurley is clearly the best candidate they could logically go after and he will likely say no. Drew is the next best and is still a very good coach.
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Tournament is a complete crapshoot, it doesn't matter. He's been a top 5 coach now for at least the past 5 years. Realistically, I don't know that they could do much better (after Hurley says no).
How does an average margin of victory of over 23 points per game and back-to-back Championships suggest a "complete crapshoot?"
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Old 04-10-2024, 12:25 PM   #7
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How does an average margin of victory of over 23 points per game and back-to-back Championships suggest a "complete crapshoot?"
I don't think it's a complete crapshoot, but Purdue did play an 11 seed in the Final Four.

Since 2000, 35 out of 96 one seeds made the Final Four... what other sport exists where a top 4 team routinely wins 85-90%+ of their games yet only has a 36% chance to make the semifinal?
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Old 04-10-2024, 03:29 PM   #10
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How does an average margin of victory of over 23 points per game and back-to-back Championships suggest a "complete crapshoot?"
3 UConn championships are of the crapshoot variety.

KUs last one definitely was.
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Old 04-10-2024, 05:16 PM   #11
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3 UConn championships are of the crapshoot variety.

KUs last one definitely was.
Missed Free Throws and Mario's Flukeacle are more "crapshoot" than anything UConn has had happened
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Missed Free Throws and Mario's Flukeacle are more "crapshoot" than anything UConn has had happened
Jesus. Let it go. That was one of the best teams ever, playing in one of the greatest final fours ever. Go hate **** your stuffed Jayhawk.
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Jesus. Let it go. That was one of the best teams ever, playing in one of the greatest final fours ever. Go hate **** your stuffed Jayhawk.
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How does an average margin of victory of over 23 points per game and back-to-back Championships suggest a "complete crapshoot?"
It's a fallback that KU (I'm a KU fan) and now UK fans use to cope with their perceived lack of success in the NCAA tournament. KU should have more championships as a blue blood program and UK should have more with the excess of talent Cal has brought it through the years.

So therefore the tournament is a completely random series of events.
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It's a fallback that KU (I'm a KU fan) and now UK fans use to cope with their perceived lack of success in the NCAA tournament. KU should have more championships as a blue blood program and UK should have more with the excess of talent Cal has brought it through the years.

So therefore the tournament is a completely random series of events.
As long as you completely ignore everything that points to how difficult it is to win the tournament as a top 4 team compared to every other league anywhere.... then yeah?

I've always seen rival fans around here cry about KU's NC count, not so much KU fans (not saying they don't exist)... my question has always been if they should have more, how greedy should we be? I'd think maybe they should have won one more in all these years... not really a big enough deal to just make believe the difficulty of the tournament.

The funniest part about using UConn as an argument that it's not a crapshoot is they were a 4 seed last year and a 7th seed the time before that, and a 3 seed before that.

I think the biggest hang up is this black and white world where people see "crapshoot" and make believe it's "a completely random series of events," when nobody is saying that at all.

I don't think there are any other leagues where someone would just shrug if the 15th best team won the NC while no team better than that even played in the semifinals.
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