HVAC cost

[jerryaldini]

I know prices have shot up since covid but still I got sticker shock on a quote to swap out AC and furnace. $16,500.

Carrier 3 ton 16 SEER AC, and 96% two stage 100k furnace plus thermostat and duct cleaning. 10 year parts 1 year labor, 20 years on heat exchangers.

High cost of living city. Is this the new normal? I know I need more quotes but this outfit has the best reputation for install and service.

Both existing 17 years old. AC is fine but furnace exchangers are cracked and prices will keep rising so doing both. Really appreciate the advice!

[Dartgod]

We had a 2.5 ton 80% unit installed last month for less than $10K, with a lifetime warranty on the heat exchanger and compressor. Included the humidifier.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by SupDock

On this same topic, I want to get a mini split in my garage. Nearly 5k installed are the quotes. That is like 3k labor for what amounts to a half day work.

If it is only half a day I am wondering how many people are going to be doing this work. Plus if they are doing the correct "work" it will take some time to pull a vacuum on the lines and evaporator. Then the charging takes time. If it is a reputable brand then there is some registration paperwork required for the warranty. That paperwork is inputting all the settings and data from the installation, pressures, and such at what temps, etc.
Let us not forget you are paying for their expertise as well as all the required things to have, run, operate, and make a profit in a business. Have you noticed how much everything has gone up in price that it takes to operate a business?
If you are buying a good name-brand mini-split and it is more than 12,000 btu I bet your guess on price of equipment is off by at least $1k.

[jerryaldini]

Wow thanks so much fellows! These numbers give me a good idea about where to draw the line. I'm getting another quote this afternoon. This feels too much like car shopping but worse because it's harder to get benchmarks.

[wutamess]

Are you in KC metro?

[TambaBerry]

in KC and was quoted in October for 6k for both furnace and AC. 2k sq ft house

[Balto]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

That's stupid high.

Check out the Pioneer heat pumps instead.

Straight drop in for your existing HVAC, and will provide heat down to -15F, and very efficient.

https://a.co/d/jjv2WaU

The above is more than you need, but they make 3 ton units.

Interesting. This kinda looks like a mix between your traditional unit and a mini-split.

Do you have this unit or have experience with it and reliability?

[neech]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

in KC and was quoted in October for 6k for both furnace and AC. 2k sq ft house

What brand name of furnace and AC was it. That sounds a little to cheap.

[DaFace]

Seems maybe a little higher than what we paid, but not much. We did a Bryant 2.5-ton, 13 SEER AC plus an 80% efficient, two-stage furnace with a variable variable speed ECM motor and a bypass humidifier for about $11k. This was in 2022 in north Denver.

[VAChief]

Is it one zone (1 unit) or two zone (2 units)? It's a one zone that is definitely on the high side. It it's two zone it is on the very low side.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Seems maybe a little higher than what we paid, but not much. We did a Bryant 2.5-ton, 13 SEER AC plus an 80% efficient, variable speed ECM motor furnace plus a bypass humidifier for about $11k. This was in 2022 in north Denver.

That's exactly what we put in last month for $9,700. I thought it was a great price.

By the way, right now is a great time to make this type of purchase. A lot of companies have people sitting around and they will make deals to get jobs.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

If it is only half a day I am wondering how many people are going to be doing this work. Plus if they are doing the correct "work" it will take some time to pull a vacuum on the lines and evaporator. Then the charging takes time. If it is a reputable brand then there is some registration paperwork required for the warranty. That paperwork is inputting all the settings and data from the installation, pressures, and such at what temps, etc.
Let us not forget you are paying for their expertise as well as all the required things to have, run, operate, and make a profit in a business. Have you noticed how much everything has gone up in price that it takes to operate a business?
If you are buying a good name-brand mini-split and it is more than 12,000 btu I bet your guess on price of equipment is off by at least $1k.

We are talking a 10000 BTU pre charged. My breaker box is also 10 feet away from the install location.
I think you did hit the nail on the head. They don’t really want to do them because they make more doing something else.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Seems maybe a little higher than what we paid, but not much. We did a Bryant 2.5-ton, 13 SEER AC plus an 80% efficient, variable speed ECM motor furnace plus a bypass humidifier for about $11k. This was in 2022 in north Denver.

Ok north Denver should be a good comp for cost of living and weather. I'll ask them what the less efficient furnace would be. Bryant and Carrier are same equipment.

[alpha_omega]

Sounds high to me.

In '22: 2 Lennox ML180 Furnaces, 2 CX-35 Lennox Coils, 1 Lennox ML14XC1-024 Air Conditioner, 1 Lennox ML14XC1-030 Air Conditioner, 2 Thermostats, installation, and 1 year service.

It came in right at $15,5.

We looked at Carrier first, but it was too high...Lennox has been just fine.

[ScareCrowe]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

I know prices have shot up since covid but still I got sticker shock on a quote to swap out AC and furnace. $16,500.

Carrier 3 ton 16 SEER AC, and 96% two stage 100k furnace plus thermostat and duct cleaning. 10 year parts 1 year labor, 20 years on heat exchangers.

High cost of living city. Is this the new normal? I know I need more quotes but this outfit has the best reputation for install and service.

Both existing 17 years old. AC is fine but furnace exchangers are cracked and prices will keep rising so doing both. Really appreciate the advice!

I work in HVAC sales, granted I'm not in KC, but central Missouri, so I would think labor costs would be similar. My 3 ton 18 SEER 2 stage AC with a 96% 2 stage furnace with variable speed blower is under 12k. We do a 17 SEER AC with a 93% furnace (all single stage, it's our budget system) for 10k. This is all Lennox equipment, so it's not "no name" garbage.

I'd say they're a bit high.

[BWillie]

High powered fan + mister

Fireplace

Save alot of money