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**Bob Dole** · 09-09-2003, 11:08 AM

Kansas City has won 12 of its last 13 games against QBs in their first or second year as NFL starters who are making their initial appearance as a starter at Arrowhead.

Maddox has never started a game at Arrowhead.

Hammock Parties · 09-09-2003, 11:10 AM

Steelers are toast, but it will be a close game.

Braincase · 09-09-2003, 11:13 AM

What sauce should we have with Steeler ribs? You know Priest will serve up a mess of burnt ends... and burnt tackles...burnt linebackers.

There's only one guy I like on the Steelers - and he has what I consider to be the coolest sounding name in football...

KC Jones · 09-09-2003, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Team RamRod

I could not stand being a Steelers fan. You know exactly what your getting from them every single season. You get a solid team that plays tough D and for the most part, mistake free O. You would know as a Steelers fan, that your team is playoff caliber, barring injuries, but in the back of your mind, you also know that you aren't getting to the big one either. I would rather a team not make the playoffs than consistently lose again, and again, and again in the playoffs year after year.

I couldn't take it. There's no mystery involved with the Steelers.

You're wrong. Cowher has changed considerably. This year they are very much a pass first and open up the field type of offense. Maddox + their WRs are their greatest strength. Their O-lines rush blocking is pretty weak too.

TRR · 09-09-2003, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Jones

You're wrong. Cowher has changed considerably. This year they are very much a pass first and open up the field type of offense. Maddox + their WRs are their greatest strength. Their O-lines rush blocking is pretty weak too.

So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.

**Rausch** · 09-09-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Team RamRod

So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.

Lay off...He's got a good point. No reason to be so rude.

And I do cheer for them as well. Just not this week....

TRR · 09-09-2003, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BRAD_CAUDLE

Lay off...He's got a good point. No reason to be so rude.

And I do cheer for them as well. Just not this week....

Lay off? Don't be so rude? Where was I rude. I stated my opinion, he told me I was wrong, so I explained my opinion in detail a little more. The whole, root for them comment was made jokingly. Obviously if your on this board, your a big KC fan. I think you need to lighten up a little bit.

TRR · 09-09-2003, 11:33 AM

It's just my opinion, which I am entitled to. I would rather a team not go to the playoffs then see them lose season after season. It's a great accomplishment to be able to win consistantly enough to put your team into the playoffs each season, but at some point, you need to take that next step and win a Super Bowl. At some point, playoffs just don't cut it anymore. The Steelers and Cowher haven't been able to do that. And they won't be able to do that this season either. It doesn't matter what the O philosophy is.

I'm aware that Cowher led them to a Super Bowl. Only to let there fans and team down again as O'Donnell choked it away.

TRR · 09-09-2003, 11:34 AM

Never did I say anywhere in my reply that this was the same type of team like Cowher had in his early years.

DaWolf · 09-09-2003, 11:37 AM

I'm not a Cowher fan either but he's a good coach. I prefer that he not be my team's coach, but he's a good coach...

09-09-2003, 12:29 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time the Chiefs made it to the playoffs? You beat a lowly Charger team and all of a sudden you believe that you are Super Bowl bound? The Steelers lost to the Titans last year and it was a close game. Yes we came up on the short end of the stick but we picked up where we left off of last year. Plus, this team is experienced enough to not only get to the Super Bowl, but win it...

Tampa Bay felt how good we were becoming last year when we went to their house and kicked their tails...

I'm not saying that the Chiefs are not a good team, especially with the weapon you have in Holmes but remember that we know him well from his days with the Ravens. Holmes is a real playmaker but teams don't run the ball against the Steelers. THAT IS A FACT! Trent Green is going to have to beat us with his arm and that opens him up to serious pressure from our D. Plus, Trent Green hasn't taken the team anywhere so I'm too worried about him at this point...

No more Kordell to srew up games for the Steelers and Chicago has to deal with him now. The Steelers have Tommy Maddox, a guy that can stretch the field with all of his weapons. Tommy is going to show you why the Steelers are the best team in the AFC. HE'S NO FLUKE!

And never, ever underestimate Cowher. He's made improvements on the Steelers and the Rooneys kept him around because he is one of the best in the business. He makes the necessary adjustments based on his talent available...

We are now a passing team first but always run the football well. The Ravens have a good run defense with Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, and their rookie, Suggs, but they were weak ini pass defense...

The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers...

HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO!

CF

"Crime Does Not Pay"

**Baby Lee** · 09-09-2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Team RamRod

It's just my opinion, which I am entitled to. I would rather a team not go to the playoffs then see them lose season after season. It's a great accomplishment to be able to win consistantly enough to put your team into the playoffs each season, but at some point, you need to take that next step and win a Super Bowl. At some point, playoffs just don't cut it anymore. The Steelers and Cowher haven't been able to do that. And they won't be able to do that this season either. It doesn't matter what the O philosophy is.

I'm aware that Cowher led them to a Super Bowl. Only to let there fans and team down again as O'Donnell choked it away.

Geezus fir-icken Crisse. They do something the Chiefs haven't done in my lifetime, and get closer to that goal than we do year in year out, and you look down on it? Only one team wins the SB every year, and being in the mix, and no they aren't a one and done team in the playoffs either. Get a little perspective, would'ya?

fbal4lif32 · 09-09-2003, 06:00 PM

I can't wait to watch this game.

Both teams are really solid. I think the Chiefs will have a good challenge but prevail in the end.

**Baby Lee** · 09-09-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Team RamRod

So your telling me the Steelers are going to the Super Bowl? LOL! Cowher did change from a run first, to a pass first team which does give the Steelers a more explosive offense, mainly because Jerome Bettis just doesn't have it in him anymore to pound on teams for 4 straight quarters. But if you think the Steelers are going to finish any better than 10-6 to 11-5 and a win or two in the playoffs, then your crazy. Or maybe you should just go root for them instead.

I'm sure you are aware that Cowher actually has taken the Steelers to the Super Bowl. And considering there are AT MOST 4 games in the playoffs, "a win or two" is nothing to sneeze at. I'm no big fan of the Steelers, but I'm likewise no big fan of people denigrating a pedigree that is as respectablem enviable even, as Cowher's and the Steelers. It's just not realistic.

09-09-2003, 11:08 AM	#2
Bob Dole King Shit of **** Mountain Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texarkana, Texas	Useless statistical note of the day... Kansas City has won 12 of its last 13 games against QBs in their first or second year as NFL starters who are making their initial appearance as a starter at Arrowhead. Maddox has never started a game at Arrowhead.
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09-09-2003, 11:10 AM	#3
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Hammock Parties's Avatar Join Date: Nov 2002	Steelers are toast, but it will be a close game.
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09-09-2003, 11:13 AM	#4
Braincase Banned Braincase's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pond> Me <Barn	What sauce should we have with Steeler ribs? You know Priest will serve up a mess of burnt ends... and burnt tackles...burnt linebackers. There's only one guy I like on the Steelers - and he has what I consider to be the coolest sounding name in football...
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09-09-2003, 11:33 AM	#9
TRR The Priest and I TRR's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO	It's just my opinion, which I am entitled to. I would rather a team not go to the playoffs then see them lose season after season. It's a great accomplishment to be able to win consistantly enough to put your team into the playoffs each season, but at some point, you need to take that next step and win a Super Bowl. At some point, playoffs just don't cut it anymore. The Steelers and Cowher haven't been able to do that. And they won't be able to do that this season either. It doesn't matter what the O philosophy is. I'm aware that Cowher led them to a Super Bowl. Only to let there fans and team down again as O'Donnell choked it away.
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09-09-2003, 11:34 AM	#10
TRR The Priest and I TRR's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO	Never did I say anywhere in my reply that this was the same type of team like Cowher had in his early years.
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09-09-2003, 11:37 AM	#11
DaWolf Cry havoc... DaWolf's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2000	I'm not a Cowher fan either but he's a good coach. I prefer that he not be my team's coach, but he's a good coach...
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09-09-2003, 12:29 PM	#12
Crime Fighter - Pillow Biter Guest	Correct me if I'm wrong, but when was the last time the Chiefs made it to the playoffs? You beat a lowly Charger team and all of a sudden you believe that you are Super Bowl bound? The Steelers lost to the Titans last year and it was a close game. Yes we came up on the short end of the stick but we picked up where we left off of last year. Plus, this team is experienced enough to not only get to the Super Bowl, but win it... Tampa Bay felt how good we were becoming last year when we went to their house and kicked their tails... I'm not saying that the Chiefs are not a good team, especially with the weapon you have in Holmes but remember that we know him well from his days with the Ravens. Holmes is a real playmaker but teams don't run the ball against the Steelers. THAT IS A FACT! Trent Green is going to have to beat us with his arm and that opens him up to serious pressure from our D. Plus, Trent Green hasn't taken the team anywhere so I'm too worried about him at this point... No more Kordell to srew up games for the Steelers and Chicago has to deal with him now. The Steelers have Tommy Maddox, a guy that can stretch the field with all of his weapons. Tommy is going to show you why the Steelers are the best team in the AFC. HE'S NO FLUKE! And never, ever underestimate Cowher. He's made improvements on the Steelers and the Rooneys kept him around because he is one of the best in the business. He makes the necessary adjustments based on his talent available... We are now a passing team first but always run the football well. The Ravens have a good run defense with Ray Lewis, Peter Boulware, and their rookie, Suggs, but they were weak ini pass defense... The Chiefs better protect Green and execute to perfection if they have a shot at beating the Steelers... HERE WE GO STEE-LERS, HERE WE GO! CF "Crime Does Not Pay"
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09-09-2003, 06:00 PM	#14
fbal4lif32 You talkin' to me? fbal4lif32's Avatar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On the Waterfront	I can't wait to watch this game. Both teams are really solid. I think the Chiefs will have a good challenge but prevail in the end.
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