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Old 01-22-2019, 05:10 PM  
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Thoughts on the AFCCG

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!!
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Old 01-23-2019, 09:52 PM   #121
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I was telling my wife...Brady playing against Bruce Smith and Reggie White?

Jack Lambert... Ed Jones... Any 80's LB on bad horse sauce....
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:01 PM   #122
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I hear you. It's just a foreign concept for me to want to "hang out" with other teams fans on their fan boards, win/lose/tie/whatever.

That's all I'm trying to understand...
I think the key difference is that we're so interesting and well-rounded around here. We know football, of course, but we know cooking and cars and pornography and pets and antifreeze and music and politics and conspiracy theories and pretty much everything else.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:10 PM   #123
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I think the key difference is that we're so interesting and well-rounded around here. We know football, of course, but we know cooking and cars and pornography and pets and antifreeze and music and politics and conspiracy theories and pretty much everything else.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:12 PM   #124
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I'd also like to add that I don't think Brady's durability is all that impressive when so many QBs are now durable.

How many games has Eli Manning missed? Rivers? Brees? What about Russell Wilson, Matt Stafford, or Matt Ryan?
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Old 01-24-2019, 12:51 AM   #125
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I love watching Mahomes play, the offense just shocks to the system knowing at any point it can explode.

My issue is that the Chiefs turn into the Ravens, a great coach, QB you can relay on but a salary cap that doesn't allow much room because your QB is eating up 25% of it.

What the Pat's have with Brady is unique, also his women makes more then him so it makes his decision that much better.

Andy better pull through as this team has a life span of 2 years before Mahomes gets paid. If Andy cant find a way to win before that, I can see him gone.
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Old 01-24-2019, 01:07 AM   #126
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It’s womAn, yo.

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Old 01-24-2019, 02:22 PM   #127
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I was telling my wife...Brady playing against Bruce Smith and Reggie White?


Why not? Brady has missed precisely ZERO games due to injury other than his ACL year, and quite a few of those games came before many of the changes that have reduced hard hits in the game.

Brady is clearly one of the toughest QBs to play, perfectly willing to hang in the pocket and take hits to deliver the ball. I don't see a goddamn thing that makes him less tough than Marino was in his day (a similar style QB). I'm not old enough to compare him to a Bradshaw or Unitas or whatever, but WTF is the point of such comparisons anyway?
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:32 PM   #128
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I moved to Chicago during the second Bulls Championship run. Then Mike left/retired. Bulls haven't won crap since. You sound like Bulls fans USED to sound. Enjoy it while you can. Dynasties run in cycles.
I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...

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Brady's run in a Patriots uniform isn't close to Bill Russells' run in a Celtics uniform.
Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.

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I don't even consider this Pats team a dynasty. To many big losse, to many rule changes(tuck rule, Brady can't be touched), Spygate, deflate gate....
Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.

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Joe Montana is still the GOAT. No Superbowl losses in an era in which you were allowed to CREAM the QB. Brady couldn't played NFL QB in the 80's-90's.
Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew ****ing Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:33 PM   #129
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Let me ask this -- Mahomes career resume is BETTER because he lost last Sunday than if he had won, willing his team to over 30 points in the second half, and then lost in the SB? That right?
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Old 01-24-2019, 02:40 PM   #130
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Your answers as to why Brady wouldn't have lasted as long exist right here...





Brady wouldn't survive that.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:04 PM   #131
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It is hilarious watching Assnorix hysterically trying to convince everyone (also himself?) about the supposed greatness of the Faketriots dynasty.

No one cares.
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Old 01-24-2019, 04:54 PM   #132
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Your answers as to why Brady wouldn't have lasted as long exist right here...





Brady wouldn't survive that.

Your first video is irrelevant. Brady isn't ****ing rolling out and running down the sideline like a dumbass.

Your second video is Joe Ferguson getting blasted by one of the best defenses ever, the '85 Bears. Brady isn't holding the ball for five seconds and running around back there like Ferguson was. If you don't understand that, you don't understand football, or Brady, or the Patriots.

Dan Marino was 6'4" and 225 lbs and was a complete statue with AMAZING footwork, and "feel" in the pocket.

Tom Brady is, cough, 6'4" and 225 lbs and is a complete statue with AMAZING footwork and "feel" in the pocket.

If you can begin to explain to me why you think Brady would've taken more of a pounding than Marino did and/or not have taken it as well as Marino did, then I'm all ears. But you can't because it's stupid "back in the day...up a hill....both ways...." nonsense.

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Old 01-24-2019, 05:02 PM   #133
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We have Mahomes and you have maybe 1 good year left in TB. you can have your rings cause our fun is just about to start. Living in the past is for losers.
They have 5 SB wins. Chiefs have 1 from 50 years ago. Jealous much dude? Chiefs lost. End of story. Season was a waste.
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Old 01-24-2019, 08:52 PM   #134
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Season was a waste.
sounds legit.

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Old 01-24-2019, 08:54 PM   #135
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I'm old enough to have watched all of the Bird era Celtics, and then watch them fall into oblivion for over a decade, and old enough to have seen MANY years of the "Curse of the Bambino" Red Sox, including Bill Buckner through the legs. I know that this era will end, and I will never see a Patriots team this good for this long again. Hell, I will likely never see the Patriots win another SB again after BB/Brady retire. I'm ok with it, though, as this run has been far more than I ever could have hoped for. But yeah, perspective -- I have it, believe it. I'm not so young...



Perhaps, but Bill Russell is the greatest winner in team sports history, with 14 championships in 15 years. 11 NBA, 2 college and a Gold Medal. NOBODY will ever duplicate that, I suspect.



Comedy gold then. The Patriots have set the following records during this run:

1. Most appearances in the Super Bowl by any NFL Team ever (BB/Brady are going to their 9th. No other TEAM in their entire history has been to more than 8).

2. Most wins in a decade.

3. Most wins over 2 decades

4. Most conference championships in a decade, or 2 decades.

5. Most conference championship appearances.

6. Most conference championship appearances in a row.

7. Most playoff wins

8. Most Super Bowl appearances.

9. Most Super Bowl victories during a single dynasty period (tied)

If that's not a dynasty, there is no dynasty. As for the scandals, spare me. The relentless winning prove how utterly absurd the NFL was in inventing scandals to dethrone the Patriots.



Joe MOntana went 4-0 in SBs in an era where the AFC SUCKED. The AFC lost like 14 SBs in a row to NFC teams! He lost in the NFCCG 49-3 once, and was one and done three times in a row. In your formula, it would be BETTER for Montana to get smoked 49-3 in the NFCCG than to win that game and then lose in the Super Bowl. That makes sense to you?

I watched TONS of football in the 80s and 90s. There is no reason at all to suggest that Brady isn't as tough as Drew ****ing Bledsoe and Dan Marino and Dan Fouts and Phil Simms and the other statue QBs of that era. Literally nothing. He's taken all the hits and gotten back up to keep crushing teams, time and time again. It's a joke to suggest he isn't tough.
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