Thoughts on the AFCCG

[Amnorix]

My unsolicited (and no doubt unwanted) thoughts on an amazing AFCCG

1. First, amazing game. Put aside the rooting interest and the result, and that was one hell of a crazy, entertaining football game, with multiple lead changes and more drama than any damn reality show has to fake create. The game earned the highest TV ratings of any show since last year's Super Bowl, and it delivered. A Patriots beat guy tweeted that the game was "bananapants" with about four minutes left to play, which was before like two touchdowns, a FG, a couple of replay reviews, and an overtime!

2. As Chiefs fans, it looks to me like you have some great years ahead of you to look forward to. Mahomes is obviously the real deal, though still raw, and you have him on an underpaid contract for two more years I understand. Huge competitive advantage. Hill and Kelce are rare talents. Your OLine could be better, though, and your defense. Well, I don't need to say much there.

3. If it helps, think of it this way -- it took the GOAT coach and GOAT QB overtime to beat you even though (1) the Patriots had few penalties, and the team overall played very disciplined all game, (2) the Chiefs defense just sucks right now, (3) Patriots somehow held the Chiefs scoreless in the first half, (4) the Pats kept Hill/Kelce to under 100 yards total, (5) the Chiefs running game was shut down, and (6) the Patriots successfully played "keep away" from the Chiefs offense for most of the game, running about 2 plays on offense for every 1 the Chiefs had. I mean, it's ridiculous how much effort that took. IMHO, the fact that the Patriots KNEW the Chiefs had a hell of a team is proven by Brady's over the top joyous reaction to winning. He's the ultimate "been there, done that" guy and he still acted like a rookie who had won the championship itself when they won.

4. IMHO Belichick and the Patriots coaches won this game far more than any individual player on the Patriots side. I thought Brady was unexceptional most of the game -- but the Patriots game plan was outstanding, on all sides of the ball. Keep away on offense by pounding the ball relentlessly and chewing up clock. Demoralizing/tiring the Chiefs defense. Not allowing the Chiefs offense to get into a rhythm. Good pass rush which kept Mahomes in the pocket, generated pressure, but didn't allow Mahomes to scramble where he is so ridiculously dangerous. It was honestly a thing of beauty as a game plan, in my opinion. It's a great demonstration of why Belichick is the GOAT coach.

5. The Chiefs OLine didn't look good at all. The Patriots completely shut down the run, and were able to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. That's not surprising for the Patriots OLine, which is excellent, but for the Chiefs OLine to be that poor is troubling. Not sure what is up there as I haven't seen many Chiefs games, but if that's a trend you should be concerned. Mahomes style of play is higher risk than you'd like, and keeping him safe should be a high priority.

6. Mahomes is obviously going to be a great one, if he isn't already, but he's still young. He failed to recognize a number of things the Patriots had going on, such as the McCourty blitz. When a safety who is usually playing deep is cheating near the line, that's a signal. He also needs to work his reads/progressions faster. But he's a freaking first year QB. His 50 TDs were "inflated" due to his ridiculous support at the skill positions, but that crap doesn't happen by accident, and we all know most QBs would not have gotten anywhere near 50 TDs even with that talent. Hell, Mahomes' arm and Hill's speed are a match made in heaven for you guys, and a combo that could power you to great heights.

7. I stayed silent during the week building up to the game, but I never did understand how so many Chiefs fans thought they would completely blow the Patriots off the field. I know their year has been one of ups and downs, but if you've watched the NFL over the last two decades, you should've known the Patriots weren't going to come in and roll over for you guys the way the limp-ass, young, inexperienced Colts did. Hell, if it wasn't for the "Miracle in Miami" that game would've been in Foxboro instead of Arrowhead. A tip for the future -- learned the hard way -- NEVER underestimate your opponent. If the 2007 Patriots could lose to the freaking 9-7 Giants, then "any given Sunday" is an absolute reality, and not just a pithy phrase.

8. I have to end with a comment on the many Cheatriots comments. They are sad. When the Patriots keep winning just as relentlessly after these ridiculous scandals as before, what does that tell you about whether or not these scandals made any sense at all? Apparently some want to believe the Patriots just have other ways of cheating to keep on winning, or that they can blame the weak AFC East. Neither makes any sense. The fact is you lost to the greatest dynasty in NFL history, the GOAT coach and GOAT QB, and while they might be in decline, they certainly ain't dead yet, as they proved yet again.

Good luck next year. May we meet again in the AFCCG, with an equally entertaining game and the same result!!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Patriots fans are the most arrogant pussies on Earth. They LUCKED into a great QB and you can't say they didn't by taking the child molester in the 5th round. Their days are going to be over soon and they will suck shit for the next 50 years and all of the NFL fandom will rejoice. And no i'm not wasting my time reading the OP. Don't care!

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

I read it all and he makes some good points. He is respected member of this board and deserves the respect to be read.


Bottom line, that all being said, Bellichick out coached Andy's staff.

End of story. The Chiefs players themselves compensated for most of the short comings, but not quite enough.

**** the Patriots and Tom ****ing Brady!

**** off. Dee Ford cost us a SB on one ****ing stupid play. Mahomes outplayed Brady and they were given another SB.

[underEJ]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You guys really should be better than posting that sort of bullshit. The drive before featured the Patriots recovering a Chiefs fumble, only to have that be negated by a holding call that had nothing to do with the play. A huge gain for the Chiefs was the result of a blatantly illegal pick play where contact was made well past the one yard limit. Eric Berry was dry humping Gronk down the field on play after play, and that wasn't getting called.

So your whining about an obviously valid call is ridiculous.

That didn't sound like whining about a call to me at all. They called it an all time blunder by Ford (time will tell if it lives with Chris Webber's time out and other fun championship gaffes.) Sounds right to me. Nothing about it being a bad call.

[Fish]

Your mom sure liked it!

[Angry fan]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Your team has ruined the NFL for a generation of fans. Congrats.

It's certainly ruined the expectations for all fan bases. Now every fan base wants to be the next dynasty dominating for the next 20 seasons. That shit is never going to happen again. What the Patriots have is a perfect storm.

[ping2000]

Never understood why the **** you post here and not in the Pat's forum with the other massholes.

[2112]

The Patriots very rarely beat themselves. And Belichick just keeps replacing guys year in and year out, and no matter who he puts in there they’re successful. Been the best coach in the league. Pretty remarkable what he’s done in the era of the salary cap. All the credit doesn’t go to Brady. Belichick put him in a position to succeed. To beat them you have to play smart. Dee Ford cost the Chiefs the game, it’s over if he’s not off side.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

**** off. Dee Ford cost us a SB on one ****ing stupid play. Mahomes outplayed Brady and they were given another SB.

You **** off! How about the ****ing roughing call.

It was not one or two plays, many mistakes were made before that play.

But yeah, it sucked ass.

[Amnorix]

https://twitter.com/mikemedhurst/sta...254706182?s=21


I saw someone on here saying the LT was illegally far off the LOS on the Ford offsides play. From this angle you can see that Trent Brown’s helmet is at the center’s hip so its legal. Absurd how big Brown is, which screws up your perspective a bit.

[lewdog]

Mods, do God's work.

Put this douche in the red and keep him there. Maybe even Miserable User this prick.

[MahiMike]

Brady and Billichick have made a deal with the devil. No two people have ever been this lucky in life.

They're great at what they do but come on! From the tuck rule to the stupid call by the Seahawks to throwing picks that are negated to winning coin tosses. Not to mention hundreds of calls that somehow always go their way.

Gronk is NOT the best TE in history. He's just the biggest one with hands the size of snow shovels.

Brady is NOT the GOAT. He's the GSQBOAT. Greatest System QB of all time. Just like Mahomes got lucky to have Andy, he's benefited from Belichick.

Belichick IS the GOAT coach. That's undeniable.

But still damn lucky.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by Angry fan

It's certainly ruined the expectations for all fan bases. Now every fan base wants to be the next dynasty dominating for the next 20 seasons. That shit is never going to happen again. What the Patriots have is a perfect storm.

If I was a Pats fan I'd be in therapy. Seriously, how can you sleep at night knowing how the NFL gifts you all your trophies? You MUST feel guilty if you have any conscious at all.

[ClevelandBronco]

Good read.

I hoped before the game that we were going to get to see Belichick at his best. He certainly didn’t disappoint me.

IMHO, all of us who have spent a lifetime enjoying football should consider ourselves fortunate to have witnessed what this Patriots team has been able to achieve.

I’d like to see them hoist another in a couple weeks.

[EPodolak]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Good read.

I hoped before the game that we were going to get to see Belichick at his best. He certainly didn’t disappoint me.

IMHO, all of us who have spent a lifetime enjoying football should consider ourselves fortunate to have witnessed what this Patriots team has been able to achieve.

I’d like to see them hoist another in a couple weeks.

Worst post of the year so far, if serious.

[Buehler445]

I'm not going to get all butthurt.

But quite frankly, we should have blown you guys off the field. Reid shit the bed, and that opened the doors to the refs inserting themselves, and opened the door for Ford to cement himself as the dumbest **** in a long line of dumb****s. ****!

The Patriots deserve all the credit for the preparation and execution that they are obviously the best in the league at. Let's be real here, Patriots shut down the offense because Reid failed to gameplan for the blitzes the Patriots cooked up. Mahomes was obviously not prepared for them and was taken by surprise - and it's really the first time all season. It's not like they physically couldn't do it, they rock and rolled the second half. Reid ****ed that up hard. Anything at all of a drive and the Defense doesn't have a shot at puking up that TD just before half. That in and of itself is ballgame.

Even more maddeningly, anyone with half a goddamned brain - obviously not Sutton or Reid, the ****s knew that the Patriots were going to run power. But we were totally un****ing prepared for it. We did a good enough job stopping it in the 2nd, so again it was a gameplan issue. And For ****s ****ing sake, if the defense would sit on the short routes and make Brady beat them deep, I'm convinced would have worked since he's essentially a much faster read Alex Smith at this point, I've seen the song and dance. But that is a little further down the speculation road, so let's leave that alone.

If the Chiefs do a painfully small amount of gameplanning, they do blow you out of the building.

But no, we're the Chiefs. We can't ****ing manage to not shit down our ****ing legs, even though we're good enough to overcome that, it still opens the door to get ****ed by the refs, Ford to shit all over the field and the defense to get ****ing gassed.

You don't ever know that because you have the GOAT coach and the GOAT QB that demand excellence.

Appreciate the insight and the civility. You don't deserve any ire, you've been good. Your contemporaries have been ****s of the lowest order, but you're alright.

But yes, if the staff does any gameplanning instead off playing with their ****ing dicks, you get blown out. Like it or not.