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Old 11-21-2019, 10:45 PM  
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:14 PM   #496
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Which is why you should get the Tesla and not the Ford. The Ford range is incredibly limited, asking with payload and towing capacity. Tesla is designed to make those things plausible. F150 is designed to beat pavement princess or non hauling work truck.

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That thing is not a work truck.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:23 PM   #497
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Which is why you should get the Tesla and not the Ford. The Ford range is incredibly limited, asking with payload and towing capacity. Tesla is designed to make those things plausible. F150 is designed to beat pavement princess or non hauling work truck.

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Then maybe Tesla shoulda designed a truck that appeals to men who do blue collar work for a living.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:27 PM   #498
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This is wildly inaccurate. So much so that I question so the claims you make, including having them on your land. Seems motivated by a chosen narrative by a dishonest actor.

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The only one spreading bullshit in this thread is you. You are flat out lying on contractors and the 2-hour radius that as phony as it gets. You sound like an around-town handyman.

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Old 04-15-2022, 05:49 PM   #499
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I am the second most excited person in this thread about electric trucks, but Tesla better actually talk to someone that uses their truck for actual work when designing the final product.

Think crew cab on at least a 2500 frame, with a usable 6.5-8’ pickup or flatbed.

I’m intrigued by the low maintenance and longevity.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:56 PM   #500
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I am the second most excited person in this thread about electric trucks, but Tesla better actually talk to someone that uses their truck for actual work when designing the final product.

Think crew cab on at least a 2500 frame, with a usable 6.5-8’ pickup or flatbed.

I’m intrigued by the low maintenance and longevity.
Why though? I’m fairly certain there are far more truck buyers that couldn’t care less about actual work performance in their truck than those that do care. An 8 ft bed especially is overkill unless they want to have bed length options. People are very used to small beds and they are very popular. Of course the flip side is that those guys that just buy a truck for looks or status or whatever may be hard to get off their preferred make.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:56 PM   #501
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I am the second most excited person in this thread about electric trucks, but Tesla better actually talk to someone that uses their truck for actual work when designing the final product.

Think crew cab on at least a 2500 frame, with a usable 6.5-8’ pickup or flatbed.

I’m intrigued by the low maintenance and longevity.
I need low cost of ownership. I’ll be in. But it has to be proven in the field. I’m no beta tester.
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Old 04-15-2022, 05:59 PM   #502
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I need low cost of ownership. I’ll be in. But it has to be proven in the field. I’m no beta tester.
The current Tesla concept truck is for the dude that tools around the city in his 1500 High Country and loses his shit if the pickup bed liner gets scratched from hauling his wife’s IKEA purchases.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:04 PM   #503
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and what happens when 300 million electric cars are simultaneously charging over night on our current electrical grid?
Grid is already overbuilt. It has to be built for max demand everywhere but Texas apparently, lol.

Grid is built to supply your home with the rating of your panel. Your car will take only 30-40 amps and charges over a number of hours. You aren't charging 300 miles each night, most likely under 80 most nights.

That coupled with the decrease in demand from led light bulbs and other more efficient appliances over the years makes it really a moot point.

If there is any issue beyond this, it'll be more than offset by the massive amounts of battery storage about to hit the grid over the next decade.

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Old 04-15-2022, 06:04 PM   #504
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and what happens when 300 million electric cars are simultaneously charging over night on our current electrical grid?
Wind farms generate a lot of power at night and if you are spending 8 or 12 hours recharging the vehicle overnight, the demand isn't that high and there isn't a lot of other demand at night.

Trying to fast super charge a lot cars during the day I could see being a bigger issue.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:08 PM   #505
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Grid is already overbuilt. It has to be built for max demand everywhere but Texas apparently, lol.

Grid is built to supply your home with the rating of your panel. Your car will take only 30-40 amps and charges over a number of hours. You aren't charging 300 miles each night, most likely under 80 most nights.

That coupled with the decrease in demand from led light bulbs and other more efficient appliances over the years makes it really a moot point.

If there is any issue beyond this, it'll be more than offset by the massive amounts of battery storage about to hit the grid over the next decade.

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Uh, California's grid is not massively over built and how does everyone charge their cars on days that are also peak demand?

Although forest fires aside, it might be in better shape than Texas.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:12 PM   #506
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Yes, the grid could use industrial scale battery storage.

It could also use more long distance, super high capacity transmission lines.

Neither is especially easy to come by.
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Old 04-15-2022, 06:14 PM   #507
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The only one spreading bullshit in this thread is you. You are flat out lying on contractors and the 2-hour radius that as phony as it gets. You sound like an around-town handyman.



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You're being an ass. Been in commercial construction for almost 20 years headline multi million dollar projects. Literally worked with thousands of companies and individuals. Depending on your geography, 98% of your work is probably inside of a 90 mile radius. Especially if you're based in a city which of course is where most work is done.

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Old 04-15-2022, 06:17 PM   #508
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I am the second most excited person in this thread about electric trucks, but Tesla better actually talk to someone that uses their truck for actual work when designing the final product.

Think crew cab on at least a 2500 frame, with a usable 6.5-8’ pickup or flatbed.

I’m intrigued by the low maintenance and longevity.
Have you not looked at the specs? It radically outperforms an F150. In many categories it's closer to a 250.

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2019/1...ord-f-150.html



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Old 04-15-2022, 06:20 PM   #509
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Yes, the grid could use industrial scale battery storage.

It could also use more long distance, super high capacity transmission lines.

Neither is especially easy to come by.
Battery storage will not be an issue. Iron is cheap and plentiful. Large scale would be nice, but enough people will install them in their homes along with solar to create some buffer.

I don't think high capacity lines are a huge issue. Honestly, battery storage should create enough microgrids to keep production close to consumption.

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Old 04-15-2022, 06:30 PM   #510
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Battery storage will not be an issue. Iron is cheap and plentiful. Large scale would be nice, but enough people will install them in their homes along with solar to create some buffer.

I don't think high capacity lines are a huge issue. Honestly, battery storage should create enough microgrids to keep production close to consumption.

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I like they idea of solar. As a matter of fact, I'm looking very seriously into getting my home on solar real soon.
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