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Old 01-03-2024, 12:05 PM  
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Duncan Idaho's Compendium of Comprehensive Offseason Plans

Offseason Plan: Version 5.0

Now with more Chris Jones, for sure, and an understanding of his contract. And Drue Tranquill on contract.

Cut
WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling
DE Charles Omenihu (last time, I said this stunk. Hearing him saying today that he thinks he should be paid like the guys in the tier right behind Nick Bosa makes it a pretty no-brainer. He clearly isn’t in a spot to do a small extension. So cut him loose.)

Extend
S Justin Reid (4/$49M – I stick to the restructure of Reid in this run. He’s just so solid and good and reliable, and the secondary still needs a veteran leader.)

Tag and Trade
CB L’Jarius Sneed (this time, I send him to the Vikings for #42 because that’s fun)

Trade
WR Kadarius Toney (2025 conditional 6th)

Let Walk
Mike Edwards
Derrick Nnadi
Willie Gay
Jerick McKinnon
Clyde Edwards-Helaire
Blake Bell
Richie James
Deon Bush
Tommy Townsend (we don’t need him any more, we have the Dolphin)
Jody Fortson
Prince Tega-Wanogho

Re-Sign
Tershawn Wharton (3 years, $9.5M – The DT room is thin even with Jones back, and watching the SB we really saw what I thought was Wharton’s best game. I like having a DT with that burst and speed, and he has clearly gotten much stronger, and he is athletic enough to run some DE snaps in a pinch)
James Winchester (minimal deal)
Malik Herring (ERFA tender)
Jack Cochrane (ERFA tender)
Nazeeh Johnson (ERFA tender)
Mike Caliendo (ERFA tender)

FA Moves
QB Trevor Siemian (1/$1.7M – veteran QB)
DE Yetur Gross-Matos (1/$1.6M – just seems like a good bet for KC as a Spags-type DE who is a Veach reclamation attempt special to boot)
OT Yosh Nijman (2/$12.3M – I just am not comfortable going into the draft with only Wanya Morris and a rookie at LT. Nijman provides a little veteran depth with some upside).

With these deals done, I’m still sitting on about $22M of cap space without restructuring Mahomes at all. I’ve added draft capital and addressed LT insurance/depth with a vet I think can be at least AVERAGE at LT.

I still dive back in at this point for WR Darnell Mooney at 1/$8M , with incentives up to $12M. That still leaves me about $15M in cap space, which I could use to sign draft picks and hunt for June 1 cuts/late FA bargains. I’m tempted to go get Teair Tartt in this cycle but hold off.

Getting into the season without touching Mahomes deal at ALL is going to really help with flexibility in 2025, when it’s going to be needed due to the Jones situation being added to the books.

Draft
Needs based on plan so far:
As before, we’re still looking at a pretty set roster that doesn’t have any glaring needs but needs to invest at DT, WR, and LT.

Simulator used: NFL Mock Draft Database (best aggregated big board at this point)

1.32: Kingsley Suamataia, LT, BYU. Suamataia needs seasoning, but his upside is high and he checks the size, arm length, and athleticism boxes to be a good long-term LT for the Chiefs.

2.42: Roman Wilson, WR, Michigan. This might be high
OK, this might be a bit of a reach. But Wilson is someone I haven’t mocked to KC before and I do think his speed, explosiveness, and ability to make cuts at top speed make him a good fit for KC’s offense. With Mooney only signed for one year, Wilson would be on hand with experience under his belt for 2025 and beyond for that role.

Also considered: Xavier Legette, WR, South Carolina. I probably would go here like I did in my last mock, but I wanted to switch it up.

2.64 Sedrick Van Pran, IOL, Georgia. Here’s a new one. I considered dipping for another WR here (hothead Jermain Burton!) but instead stick on the OL. The Jones decision is going to come with consequences on other players, and I may need to account for them. Van Pran can be a stud C or a good G. If Humphrey walks, you’re covered. If Smith walks, you’re covered. If they cut Thuney to keep Smith and Humphrey, you’re covered. If they need to move Humphrey off C because of Snaps, you’re covered.

3.95 McKinnley Jackson, DT, Texas A&M Big bulky dude to help replace Nnadi.

4.131 Brenden Rice, WR, USC. His 40 at the combine was a disappointment, but I still like his size and ability to work the scramble drill. Great bloodlines, great work ethic, and I think he’s faster than his 40.

5.158 Deantre Prince, CB, Ole Miss. I missed on the round 2 and round 3 CB values/fits. His size/speed/athletic profile tracks with the Day 3 gems the Chiefs have been finding. Let’s keep it rolling.

5.172 Isaac Guerendo, RB, Louisville. I am not first to the Guerendo train, but I’m on it. Size/speed combo is great. I doubt he actually makes it here, though.

7.250 Gabe Hall, DT, Baylor. I like Hall’s size and athletic ability. Seemed worthwhile for a Day 3 stab.

Wrapping it up

This will be my last offseason exercise. I’m pretty stoked about where KC lands in this, honestly.

Two-deep (Re-signed,FA adds, rookies)

(2) QB: Mahomes/Siemian
(3) RB: Pacheco/Guerendo/Prince
(6) WR: Rice, Mooney, Wilson/ Watson, Rice, Moore
(3) TE: Kelce/Gray/min contract vet

(2) OT: Nijman/Suamataia

(2) OG: Thuney/Morris
(1) C: Humphrey/Van Pran
(2) RG: Smith/Caliendo
(2) RT: Taylor/Morris

(6) DE: Karlaftis, Anudike-Uzomah, Gross-Matos, Harring, Thompsonsmall contract vet
(5) DT: Jones,Wharton,Farrell, Jackson ,Hall

(5) LB: Bolton, Tranquill, Chenal, Cochrane, Jones

(6) CB: McDuffie, Williams, Watson, Johnson, Jones, Prince
(4) S: Reid, Cook, Conner, inexpensive vet, probably Deon Bush

(1) LS: Winchester
(1) K: Butker
(1) P: The Dolphin

That leaves 1 spot floating if my count is right, probably goes to depth at OL or maybe another DB who is a special teams asset.

The defense still is built around Chris Jones and I know that DE room is going to make some people nervous. I’d be looking for some training camp cuts/late FA additions to beef that spot up some more. The LB corps is still a strong one (and still one of the better ones in the NFL, if not quite as versatile in base with Willie Gay presumably making a lot of money elsewhere), and the secondary is still a strength (probably a little stronger at S in 24 than it was in 23, with Reid, Conner, and Cook, but obviously turning things over at CB).

I’d feel good about the chances for a 3-peat with this one, and I think KC would be the preseason favorite in this run. Defense is still strong, offense got a bunch of help.

Looking ahead to 25, I haven’t addressed Bolton-Humphrey-Smith. In light of the Jones signing and structure, I don’t think they can keep 2 any more. Might just be one… and maybe neither of the OL.

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Old 01-12-2024, 09:59 AM   #61
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I kind of hope they throw down a little scratch and keep Mike Danna
So their 1st rd pick can ride the bench another year?
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Old 01-12-2024, 10:10 AM   #62
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So their 1st rd pick can ride the bench another year?
If their 1st round pick can't beat him out then yes. The best players should play, no one should have their path cleared for them because they aren't able to win a job.
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Old 01-12-2024, 11:23 AM   #63
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They drafted him in the first, he's gonna play. They can't sign Danna and let the best man win, they need that money elsewhere.
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Old 01-12-2024, 11:31 AM   #64
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If their 1st round pick can't beat him out then yes. The best players should play, no one should have their path cleared for them because they aren't able to win a job.
That's not clearing the path for him, you still probably draft a DE in the mid-rounds and/or sign a cheap veteran for depth. But you're talking spending $10+ million a year to re-sign someone when you have a 1st round pick who was likely drafted with the idea of replacing Danna and taking away valuable cap room from other positions. It's simply not an efficient use of money.
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Old 01-12-2024, 12:35 PM   #65
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Dana is going to get a bigger Bag of $$$ than Gay will because he plays at a premium position. He's gone and we are going to get a nice comp pick down the road because we are going to loose players like him and Jones.

Keep the secondary together, try to hold on to those LBs because they won't break the bank, keep investing in the Defensive Line in the draft.
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Old 01-12-2024, 12:41 PM   #66
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Felix and Thompson will be DE 3 and 4. They showed good flashes last week. Just need the off-season to get stronger and work on technique. Talent is definitely there.





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Old 01-12-2024, 12:50 PM   #67
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Told y'all that Thompson had tools you can't teach.

He's overaged so the projection curve on him is tough to establish. But man, even if you also need to use next year to coach him up, he could be a hell of a little piece for a couple seasons. That get-off and the bend is borderline elite.
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Old 01-12-2024, 12:51 PM   #68
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nah, let Danna walk. Keep churning young guys through the ladder. We have 4 ends in Karlaftis, Omenihu, FAU, and Thompson plus we can ERFA tender Herring, which they will. Maybe spend another 4th or 5th on a DE or something. No need to lock up a bunch of money in Danna. If you can get him on a 1-year for like 3 million, that's one thing.
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Old 01-13-2024, 01:08 PM   #69
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Yeah, Harring showed some promising things in that Chargers game. 1st time for me, really.

He’ll be ERFAed in 2.0.
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Old 01-14-2024, 12:28 PM   #70
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Dang, Thompson has some odd stances before the snap lol

Glad he and FAU showed some potential, looking forward to them putting it all together.
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Told y'all that Thompson had tools you can't teach.

He's overaged so the projection curve on him is tough to establish. But man, even if you also need to use next year to coach him up, he could be a hell of a little piece for a couple seasons. That get-off and the bend is borderline elite.
The age is the problem. I'd be interested to know how many guys come on strong at that age, it's gotta be few and far between, right?
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Yeah, Harring showed some promising things in that Chargers game. 1st time for me, really.

He’ll be ERFAed in 2.0.
Zero juice as a pass-rusher but against the run he's looked pretty damn solid, and he looks a guy you can move around a bit. I'd definitely keep him.
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Old 01-15-2024, 08:11 AM   #73
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I don't like that FAU was inactive in a playoff game.
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Old 01-15-2024, 09:19 AM   #74
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Probably will knock 2.0 out today.

Re: Anudike-Uzomah, I don't care that he was inactive. What he does or doesn't do this year is really inconsequential.
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Old 01-15-2024, 09:29 AM   #75
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Drafting a guy in the first round, then fully redshirting him....I dunno. Unless it's a QB, I don't think it's wise.
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