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Old 03-14-2019, 03:15 PM  
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Chiefs sign Alex Okafor [restructured]

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Old 03-14-2019, 08:06 PM   #256
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Wait... so you are saying that in a DE, DT, DT, DE set up that the OLB is the equivalent of the DE? Why even bother with the DE? Just call him another DT. I think you are confused.
Do you really not understand that a 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB are both edge rushers? I didn’t think I’d actually have to explain this to you.

Why do you think teams move their DEs to OLB when transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa? The 49ers traded for Ford, previously a 3-4 OLB his entire career to put at the WDE in a 4-3 because they require close to identical skill sets.

I can’t tell if you’re actually srs.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:16 PM   #257
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:17 PM   #258
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Yes, Dorsey was the GM that selected Mahomes - AFTER Veach constantly harassed him and Reid about the kid. This is documented fact. With out Veach Mahomes may well be making some other team a contender right now and our orgasms would be few and of the grunting variety instead of multiple and scream inducing.
Lol, you actually bought that propaganda piece?
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:18 PM   #259
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:19 PM   #260
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Here comes this butt****ing moron. How is signing a guy that played a big part in the #1 run defense a move in the wrong direction?

And people on the Texas Tech side are lying about Veach being the one on Mahomes early too? It’s all just “propaganda”?
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:20 PM   #261
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Do you really not understand that a 4-3 DE and 3-4 OLB are both edge rushers? I didn’t think I’d actually have to explain this to you.

Why do you think teams move their DEs to OLB when transitioning from a 4-3 to a 3-4 and vice versa? The 49ers traded for Ford, previously a 3-4 OLB his entire career to put at the WDE in a 4-3 because they require close to identical skill sets.

I can’t tell if you’re actually srs.
Move the goal posts much? Starts with Hardon for DE moves to edge rushers. What's next CB/S that rushes from the edge?
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:31 PM   #262
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The fact that’s he’s had a good group of pass rushers every time he’s had a successful defense and a weaker pass rushing core every time he hasn’t is not something to be ignored no matter what he’s drafting and going after in FA. Okafor, Chris Jones, Breeland Speaks is closer to what he had on the Saints than what he did on the Giants.

Justin Tuck, Osi, and Strahan were more of the reason that defense won the SB and held the best offense in history to 14 points in the SB moreso than Sam Madison, Gibril, and Aaron Ross. Do you disagree with that?
Saints barely fit into the conversation since that was Bountygate. He had good DEs in 2011, and nothing special at CB in St. Louis. In 2016, the #2 defense had a lot more to do with the secondary (Collins, Apple, Jenkins - outstanding) than the DEs. Of course he had something special in 2008 with his pass rushers. That doesn't make what he's doing here wrong. Spags basically decided to have a balanced defense vs. put every single dollar on our DL. That could change as the years go on. But I'd sure as hell rather see a bunch of average guys than 3 world beaters and giant piles of shit everywhere else.

And that's not even getting into if that would still work in a modern defense. Especially in a game where QBs are trying to get rid of the ball super fast and CBs and LBs have to play with so much range.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:36 PM   #263
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The Saints run defense was ranked No.1 last year. Okafor was a part of that, so there’s more to it than sack numbers.
Are you saying he can set the edge and stop the run?
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:40 PM   #264
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2018 Ford: 87.7, 67.6, 67.9, 91.1, 57.8
2018 Houston: 85.7, 65.1, 59.3, 89.1, 64.1
2018 Speaks: 57.8, 63.8, 66.2, 56.6, 52.4
2018 Kpassagnon: 70.2, 75.6, 47.4, 64.8, 53.9
2018 Okafor: 69.4, 68.3, 59.1, 60.5, 71.3

Kpass tho
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:41 PM   #265
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So why couldnt we have kept Houston again? Way better player
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:42 PM   #266
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If you're still trying to figure that out you haven't paying attention.

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Old 03-14-2019, 08:42 PM   #267
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Right, let’s focus on one play when the defense as a whole played like trash cause Sutton was once again lost. Let’s scapegoat our most productive defensive player and trade him for a 2nd in two years then sign career unproductive players for close to the same amount of money. (Adding Okafor to whatever trash CB we overpay)

Of course fans who can’t see beyond hE CoSt uS tHe sB tHo can’t see why an actually intelligent GM like John Lynch jumped all over that trade and immediately paid him. hE wAs oFfSiDeS tHo
Until he gets injured again which history says he will.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:44 PM   #268
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So why couldnt we have kept Houston again? Way better player
Houston would have blown his knee out by October trying to do twists and stunts.
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:44 PM   #269
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If you're still trying to figure that out you haven't paying attention.

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So 15 mil for a guy who's still a good pass rusher, setting the dodge can cover vs a JAG paying him potentially 8 mil
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Old 03-14-2019, 08:46 PM   #270
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So 15 mil for a guy who's still a good pass rusher, setting the dodge can cover vs a JAG paying him potentially 8 mil
potentially 8, currently 6, how many times can 6 go into 15? a little under 3 times. that's 2-3 players for the price of 1.
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