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Old 11-21-2018, 08:27 AM  
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NFL MVP... Brees or Mahomes
So, I think the race comes down to these two guys and could honestly support either winning it all. Take away either player and that team is going to suck. One has vastly better stats, one has fewer losses on the season (team stat).

67.5% Completion / 117.9 QBR / 3,628 yards / 37 TD / 10 INT (186 rushing yards / 2 TDs)
76.9% Completion / 126.9 QBR / 2,964 yards / 25 TD / 1 INT (28 rushing yards / 3 TDs)

Both have their teams at the top of their conferences. One is at the end of the road, the other just getting started. Brees has never earned an MVP and is breaking career records left and right.

Are you fine either way... do you feel that Mahomes without question is the MVP over Brees? Maybe this is the ultimate test of "does the leauge really hate KC"?
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:18 AM   #271
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We should assemble a document that presents a coherent argument for Mahomes being the MVP before the vote.

These are the guys that vote.

Eric Adelson, Yahoo: @eric_adelson

Troy Aikman, Fox: @TroyAikman

Hub Arkush, Westwood One: @Hub_Arkush

Howard Balzer, Pro Football Hall of Fame: @HBalzer721

Don Banks, Bleacher Report: @DonBanks

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Andy Benoit, The MMQB: @Andy_Benoit

Ron Borges, Boston Herald: @RonBorges

Vic Carucci, Buffalo News: @viccarucci

John Clayton, ESPN: @ClaytonESPN

Steve Cohen, Sirius XM: @CohenNFL

Cris Collinsworth, NBC: @Collinsworthpff

Mark Craig, Minneapolis Star Tribune: @markcraignfl

Tom Curran, Comcast Sports Net: @tomecurran

John Czarnecki, Fox Sports

Paul Domowitch, Philadelphia Daily News: @pdomo

Tony Dungy, NBC: @TonyDungy

Boomer Esiason, CBS: @7BOOMERESIASON

Rich Gannon, CBS: @RichGannon12

Fred Gaudelli, NBC: @NBCSNF

Bob Glauber, Newsday: @BobGlauber

Rick Gosselin, Talk of Fame Network: @RickGosselin9

Rodney Harrison, NBC: @Rodney_Harrison

Lindsay Jones, USA Today: @bylindsayhjones

Clark Judge, Talk of Fame Network: @ClarkJudgeTOF

Ira Kaufman, SB Nation Radio: @IKaufman76

Peter King, The MMQB: @SI_PeterKing

Pat Kirwan, Sirius XM: @PatKirwanrfn

Suzy Kolber, ESPN: @SuzyKolber

Jeff Legwold, ESPN: @Jeff_Legwold

James Lofton, CBS: @lofton80

Alex Marvez, The Sporting News: @alexmarvez

John McClain, Houston Chronicle: @McLain_on_NFL

Jim Miller, Sirius XM

Chris Mortensen, ESPN: @mortreport

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Gary Myers, New York Daily News: @garymyersNYDN

Nick Pavlatos, Sirius XM: @nflradionick

Bill Polian, ESPN

Dan Pompei, Bleacher Report: @danpompei

Pete Prisco, CBS: @PriscoCBS

Lorenzo Reyes, USA Today: @LorenzoGReyes

Tim Ryan, Fox: @TimRyan99

Armando Salguero, Miami Herald: @ArmandoSalguero

Adam Schein, Showtime/CBS: @AdamSchein

Tom Silverstein, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: @TomSilverstein

David Steele, Sporting News: @David_C_Steele

Mike Tirico, NBC: @miketirico

Jenny Vrentas, The MMQB: @JennyVrentas

Charean Williams, Pro Football Talk: @NFLCharean
Uhp. Prisco and Polian are going Brees.

And Gannon is still probably butthurt about Mahomes breaking all of his Chiefs franchise highs in a single season.
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:20 AM   #272
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:28 AM   #274
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Old 11-30-2018, 07:32 AM   #275
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All those anti-Mahomes narratives last week...go straight to brees

And it was a 10 point performance by Shorty, not 44. Outdueled by Dak
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:09 AM   #276
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That took an interesting turn...
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:17 AM   #277
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:32 AM   #279
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I don’t think Schwartz has ever really fully been into Mahomes. He was a big smith fan
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:34 AM   #280
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Interesting fact Brees has thrown for over 100 yards in EVERY game this year!

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Old 11-30-2018, 08:34 AM   #281
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What a ****ing idiot.

Get your bro Mitch.
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We'll see how long that lasts...

Brees QB rating: 123.2
Mahomes: 117.9


Brees QBR: 83.6
Mahomes QBR: 82.5


If Mahomes does what he should do against a bad Raiders team, it'll be that much closer. Then they can cling to their int % like that matters at all.
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Old 11-30-2018, 08:49 AM   #283
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Red zone...

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Old 11-30-2018, 09:06 AM   #284
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Mahomes beats Brees in:

Yds
Yds per attempt
TDs
Rushing yds
PPG
3rd down %
Red zone %
Deep passing
Performance against Top 10 defenses


Brees beats Mahomes in:

Completion % (lol)
Turnovers


Record is even. QBR is a push.

Obvious MVP favorite.
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Old 11-30-2018, 09:08 AM   #285
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Completion pct is such a dumb statistic to put in the equation.
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