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Old 01-21-2019, 08:49 AM  
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Dee Ford: What next?
Posting this here because it feels much more likely to be a viable intelligent conversation right now and not a bunch of ‘**** you **** him!!!’.....

Alright. So what do you guys think we should do/will do with him now?

I think it’s prisoner of the moment thinking to say they should let him go based on the one play last night. But that doesn’t mean that it is or isn’t the right move necessarily. We’ve also got to consider that this front 4 could be even more lethal with a new DC.

The way I see it, it’s either tag or tag & trade. And I guess for me it would come down to where the cap sits and how much I can get back in said potential trade.

Thoughts?...
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:20 AM   #76
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If Houston won’t take a pay cut I’d get rid of him. Not worth the $21M cap hit.

He benefits a lot from having Ford and Jones there, I’m telling ya.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:25 AM   #77
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If Houston won’t take a pay cut I’d get rid of him. Not worth the $21M cap hit.

He benefits a lot from having Ford and Jones there, I’m telling ya.
Boy you pretty quickly turn on guys once it’s a chance they aren’t a chief anymore
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:27 AM   #78
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Probably floating it that we might cut him so he'll be more likely to restructure, I guess. Either way, 21 million for him just isn't feasible.
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:28 AM   #79
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Probably floating it that we might cut him so he'll be more likely to restructure, I guess. Either way, 21 million for him just isn't feasible.
Yeah, they’ll restructure or cut him but he’s still a really good player that will get a nice deal on the market if he hits it

The chiefs ****ed it up with drafting like ass **** and not having anybody ready to replace him or Ford
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Boy you pretty quickly turn on guys once it’s a chance they aren’t a chief anymore
Go back and look at a couple threads about Ford from a couple weeks ago, I’ve been saying that for awhile. Houston wasn’t really ever getting double teamed late in the year. It was Ford.
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Yeah, they’ll restructure or cut him but he’s still a really good player that will get a nice deal on the market if he hits it

The chiefs ****ed it up with drafting like ass **** and not having anybody ready to replace him or Ford
Yep. Really don't want to let either of them go when the best window is now and we've got ****ing nothing to replace either of them. Goddamnit Dorsey and Veach.
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Go back and look at a couple threads about Ford from a couple weeks ago, I’ve been saying that for awhile. Houston wasn’t really ever getting double teamed late in the year. It was Ford.
Ok.

So they may let ford walk or trade him so go ahead and talk down about him now since he may not be a chief next year
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Old 01-26-2019, 10:33 AM   #83
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Personally, with the scheme change I don't think either one of them is worth it considering the cost and Houston's age.

$37M for two pass rushers, one of which is 30 and the other is a one trick pony.

A LOT could be done with that money.
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Yep. Really don't want to let either of them go when the best window is now and we've got ****ing nothing to replace either of them. Goddamnit Dorsey and Veach.
It’s just hard to get all this shit to line up. Contracts injuries, draft picks etc.

They need this draft to be pretty stellar quickly
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Personally, with the scheme change I don't think either one of them is worth it considering the cost and Houston's age.

$37M for two pass rushers, one of which is 30 and the other is a one trick pony.

A LOT could be done with that money.
We spent damn near 30 million annually on Watkins and Hitchens. Really don't trust Veach to spend it all that wisely.
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Personally, with the scheme change I don't think either one of them is worth it considering the cost and Houston's age.

$37M for two pass rushers, one of which is 30 and the other is a one trick pony.

A LOT could be done with that money.
But you’ve gotta have someone rush the passer next year. You’re gonna have a top notch offense again and teams will be playing catch-up.

I’d rather just stack the defense with good players everywhere and that money could help you do that but that’s a risk
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I’m good with Watkins now. It sucks he got hurt (again) but damn he was good against the pats.

But **** they haven’t gotten much return on any free agents in a while outside of Schwartz
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Ok.

So they may let ford walk or trade him so go ahead and talk down about him now since he may not be a chief next year
I’m just being real man. Ford is the better pass rusher between the two and he was very valuable with all the leads we had this year. But I’m a game like last week where they are running it most of the time, his impact is mitigated.

Houston is the better overall player but he no longer commands double teams. He’s 30 and expensive for what he gives. Not 2014 Houston at all anymore.

They both feed off of each other in some ways but I’m not sure either is worth their current projected cost, $21M and $15-17M for Ford. They have to figure something out. Would like to keep both.
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We spent damn near 30 million annually on Watkins and Hitchens. Really don't trust Veach to spend it all that wisely.
An argument could be made that Watkins made the offense go.

And I'm firmly in the camp that thinks Hitchens will be a completely different player next year in a 4-3.
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But you’ve gotta have someone rush the passer next year. You’re gonna have a top notch offense again and teams will be playing catch-up.

I’d rather just stack the defense with good players everywhere and that money could help you do that but that’s a risk
No doubt.

Personally, I'd take the risk at finding those players in FA or the draft. To me it's worth the risk to improve the defense as a whole, instead of relying on one-dimensional players who are too easily taken out of a game if we're not two+ scores ahead.
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