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05-10-2020, 07:45 PM | #2 |
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Way to go, Craig.
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05-11-2020, 06:54 PM | #3 |
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Just finished watching 7&8. This shit is ****ing crack. Except way, WAY better. JJ Watt was right. 10 episodes is just not nearly enough.
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05-12-2020, 01:08 AM | #4 |
Now you've pissed me off!
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I'm 37. I grew up with these teams. I never blamed Pippen for refusing to go into that game, and I never blamed his teammates for feeling betrayed. Pippen ate shit for years, was criminally underpaid and underappreciated, and that season he was one of the three best players in the game. He earned the right to take that shot, and Phil should have given it to him. It's great that it worked out, I'm still happy that Kukoc made that shot, because he had to eat a lot of shit too, and the Bulls really should have won that series (Hugh Hollins absolutely ****ed them on a foul call that swung Game 5).
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05-12-2020, 10:07 AM | #5 |
You gotta kill a few people
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This is a really entertaining show. The insight offered is incredible.
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05-12-2020, 11:57 AM | #6 |
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You gotta kill a few people
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05-21-2020, 03:03 PM | #8 |
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The title "last dance" sounds like the name of one of those teen movies, I could've came up with something better, just saying.
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05-12-2020, 01:13 PM | #9 |
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I don't know how anybody can watch this and not come to the conclusion that MJ was a massive asshole (which I don't think is surprising new information). He had the final cut on this and he still comes off as someone just awful to be around (and other than Isaiah, they've really only included interviews with his friends).
And that isn't even getting into the central narrative of the entire thing which doesn't hold up to much scrutiny (the vilifying of Krause, a guy who helped build the greatest roster in history around MJ). Was Krause really supposed to rework Pippen's contract just to be nice or not scout guys like Toni Kukoc in Europe just so it wouldn't upset Jordan/Pippen? And yeah, you can say that Krause had some responsibility for the dissolution of the Bulls at the end, but Reinsdorf could have stepped in at any time and stopped it if that's what he/MJ/Phil wanted to do. The lack of any voice being there to defend the guy's actions throughout is a failing of the documentary. Last edited by KC_Connection; 05-12-2020 at 01:18 PM.. |
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05-12-2020, 04:48 PM | #11 |
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Jordan could have easily spoken out about Pippin's contract to the media and something would have been done about it.
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05-12-2020, 06:53 PM | #12 |
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Jordan's job was not philanthropy, it was sports excellence.
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05-13-2020, 01:09 PM | #13 |
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MJ was the boss. None of the players on any of those 6 championship teams would have been anywhere near the level of success they achieved without Michael. Including Scotty.
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05-14-2020, 07:07 PM | #14 |
Shaken. Not stirred.
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The Last Dance
I'm loving reliving all those moments. What a great team to watch.
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05-22-2020, 04:30 PM | #15 |
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My earliest sports memories are watching Marcus Allen goal line touchdown leaps and watching the Bulls-Jazz series. Jordan's impact on the childhoods of my generation was monumental. Our earliest memories of television are seeing his Gatorade and shoe commercials. Perhaps our first live-action movie in theaters was Space Jam. We watched with our fathers the games he played. We spent our allowance money on getting his basketball cards. We begged our parents for Jordans. The only place we couldn't find Jordan's presence in our lives was the NBA Jam video game.
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