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Old 11-23-2020, 11:15 AM  
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Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...yIbOTl70ncM4Zs

NFL odds: After Sunday night, Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite

Frank Schwab 2 hrs ago

We can cease and desist with any debate about someone other than Patrick Mahomes being the NFL MVP favorite.

You’ll hear people argue that Kyler Murray, Russell Wilson, Alvin Kamara or anyone else should be “in the conversation,” but the only real talk is that the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback is the overwhelming favorite until further notice. Everyone else is vying for NFL offensive player of the year, though Mahomes should probably win that too.

Sunday night’s heroics, leading a game-winning drive over the Las Vegas Raiders everyone knew was coming, solidified Mahomes’ position. He’s the best player in football and he’s having a phenomenal year.

The odds at BetMGM reflect that.

Mahomes is -118 to win MVP at BetMGM. Next on the list is Wilson at +350. Aaron Rodgers is +550 and nobody else is less than 12-to-1.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:32 PM   #166
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Lots of chatter about Derrick Henry as MVP. The next few games will determine who gets it. This is the time of year Henry puts up 200 yards a game, and he's already near 1300 yards. A 2000 yard season may be enough to beat out mahomie
Lots of chatter! Well, Stephen A. Smith does talk a lot, so I guess that counts as lots of chatter.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:41 PM   #167
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LOL remember when we used to think things like "Jamaal is the best player in the league right now, it's bullshit the award is always going to QB's!!!".

Then we'd hitch our hopes and dreams to a RB and a QB that might be able to get over the hump. Bad times.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:44 PM   #168
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Lots of chatter! Well, Stephen A. Smith does talk a lot, so I guess that counts as lots of chatter.
"lots of chatter."

It was literally like two guys on two shows for about thirty seconds.

Fisted's desperation to be relevant is either really sad or freaking hilarious.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:22 PM   #169
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Derrick Henry was just average (112 yards rushing) in a loss to the pathetic Bengals team a few weeks ago (Cincy has the third worst rushing defense in the league).

A RB who is trying to get consideration as an MVP candidate cannot have average games/losses against the third worst run defense in the NFL.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:27 PM   #170
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Derrick Henry still isn't even the most important player on his own offense. The Titan's success is tethered to Tannehill, not a RB.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:27 PM   #171
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112 yards is average? Tough crowd...
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:29 PM   #172
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112 yards is average? Tough crowd...
The Bengals defense is awful.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:32 PM   #173
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112 yards is average? Tough crowd...
For a RB going against the third worst run defense in the NFL and trying to get MVP consideration that is average.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:35 PM   #174
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Looks like he had 18 carries for 112 and a TD. That looks good to me.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:02 PM   #175
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Looks like he had 18 carries for 112 and a TD. That looks good to me.
The Bengals give up 137 rushing yards per game.

112 is actually below average.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:04 PM   #176
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I still think Mahomes is going to trail off starting now. We're going to be curbstomping everyone and he'll be bench-riding in the fourth. We'll probably have two or three 28-9 type wins down the stretch where Bell gets some TDs.

I think Rodgers ends up with a higher QB rating and about 5-6 more TDs.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:05 PM   #177
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Derrick Henry still isn't even the most important player on his own offense. The Titan's success is tethered to Tannehill, not a RB.
Wrong. Tannehill is ok, but he thrives off of play action. Without Henry those defenses don’t bite so hard on those play fakes.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:05 PM   #178
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The Bengals give up 137 rushing yards per game.

112 is actually below average.
They give up 137 to one player every week? You're absolutely right then 112 is below average.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:10 PM   #179
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They give up 137 to one player every week? You're absolutely right then 112 is below average.
Hey, if you wanna crown Henry, go ahead.

RB's are antiques. He's not going to win MVP.
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Old 12-01-2020, 02:12 PM   #180
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Derrick Henry still isn't even the most important player on his own offense. The Titan's success is tethered to Tannehill, not a RB.
No. Tannehill is very average without being able to lean on PA. We proved that in the AFCCG. Take away Henry, and Tannehill is just an average QB.

Okay, maybe not 'very average,' that's overstating a little. He's better than just average, but he isn't top 10, so somewhere between 12-15 is more accurate.
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