***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[2112]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

That’s the key. When I went three days ago, there was no bread or meat worth a shit. Only gluten free cardboard, chitlins, and hog asses.

Where are you? In the city?

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by D2112

They’re trying to keep up with stocking shelves. Only one case of water allowed per person. I pick up my meat at restaurant depot, so I have no idea how much meat they had. But they had bread, oat meal..canned goods were mostly gone. They had plenty of produce

Last i went to the grocery store was last weekend. Smart & Final was letting people in 5 at a time, but i was able to score some good food such as Bacon, Hot Links, ground beef, milk, eggs, cheese etc.

Afterwards i hit up a local neighborhood market and they were very well stocked as well. I even saw the return of Top Ramen and Cup O' Noodles.

So i thought things were rebounding. Today i've been hearing stories about empty shelves again.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Donger

In mid-January, yes. What evidence do you have that there was, and they knew about it?

The fact they ignored answering Taiwan when they asked on December 31.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Last i went to the grocery store was last weekend. Smart & Final was letting people in 5 at a time, but i was able to score some good food such as Bacon, Hot Links, ground beef, milk, eggs, cheese etc.

Afterwards i hit up a local neighborhood market and they were very well stocked as well. I even saw the return of Top Ramen and Cup O' Noodles.

So i thought things were rebounding. Today i've been hearing stories about empty shelves again.

I’m going shopping every day picking up small amounts. It depends what time you go. They stock at night but by me they bus in senior citizens in the early am and it’s seniors only from 6-8am every day. By 10-11am there’s a good amount on the shelves, later in the day not so much. I picked up 40lbs of chicken and a pork loin from restaurant depot on Tuesday so I’m good for a little while.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

The fact they ignored answering Taiwan when they asked on December 31.

I'm sorry, what?

[TLO]

2 confirmed positives in my county today. 1 if them in the office where my Mom works. (Though they say she's at a very low exposure risk)

[Bob Dole]

They just put my entire county on mandatory lockdown until April 13. Since all restaurants, grocery stores, auto mechanics, veterinarians banks and some other shit is still open, and the neighboring county is NOT on lockdown (And by neighboring, I mean the east half of town), I'm not sure it's much more than a reason for law enforcement to be assholes.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

They just put my entire county on mandatory lockdown until April 13. Since all restaurants, grocery stores, auto mechanics, veterinarians banks and some other shit is still open, and the neighboring county is NOT on lockdown (And by neighboring, I mean the east half of town), I'm not sure it's much more than a reason for law enforcement to be assholes.

Law enforcement will likely be doing LESS and life, for the most part, will proceed as normal.

[Discuss Thrower]

Speaking to reporters in Taipei, the island’s Centres for Disease Control chief Chou Jih-haw said that it written to the WHO and China as early as Dec. 31, asking for information about the newly uncovered virus outbreak in China’s Wuhan city, including whether there was human-to-human transmission.

“We asked them whether there’s a possibility of human-to-human transmission. We indeed asked them and reminded them of the matter,” Chou said. He said the WHO confirmed it had received the letter but did not respond to it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B160

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Speaking to reporters in Taipei, the island’s Centres for Disease Control chief Chou Jih-haw said that it written to the WHO and China as early as Dec. 31, asking for information about the newly uncovered virus outbreak in China’s Wuhan city, including whether there was human-to-human transmission.

“We asked them whether there’s a possibility of human-to-human transmission. We indeed asked them and reminded them of the matter,” Chou said. He said the WHO confirmed it had received the letter but did not respond to it.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN21B160

Okay. And?

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

This shows the location data of phones that were on a Florida beach during Spring Break. It then shows where those phones traveled.

First thing you should note is the importance of social distancing. The second is how much data your phone gives off. pic.twitter.com/iokUX3qjeB

— Mikael Thalen (@MikaelThalen) March 26, 2020

The continued erosion of personal freedoms/civil liberties.

Far more scary than anything COVID-19 related, especially the potential long term ramifications.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

They just put my entire county on mandatory lockdown until April 13. Since all restaurants, grocery stores, auto mechanics, veterinarians banks and some other shit is still open, and the neighboring county is NOT on lockdown (And by neighboring, I mean the east half of town), I'm not sure it's much more than a reason for law enforcement to be assholes.

Oh we live in same county! Nice need to go watch a Chiefs game together sometime!

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Bob Dole

They just put my entire county on mandatory lockdown until April 13. Since all restaurants, grocery stores, auto mechanics, veterinarians banks and some other shit is still open, and the neighboring county is NOT on lockdown (And by neighboring, I mean the east half of town), I'm not sure it's much more than a reason for law enforcement to be assholes.

Are your restaurants open for dine-in?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay. And?

I think he's implying that things the WHO puts out, like the ibuprofen thing, are not necessarily ironclad.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I think he's implying that things the WHO puts out, like the ibuprofen thing, are not necessarily ironclad.

WRONG