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Old 12-08-2020, 11:08 PM  
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
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WTF, Amazon?!?!

So I logged into my Amazon account this evening to order some razor blades and noticed that in my product browsing history is the Ravens/Cowboys game.

Why is that odd?

Because I didn't watch it on Amazon Prime. I didn't watch it via any streaming service. I didn't watch it on a smart TV, I didn't even watch it on a connected device.

I watched it OTA on a regular TV. I know those stupid smart home devices can hear you when you say their name and I'm sure they listen to my conversations on occasion but are they listening to what I'm ****ing watching on TV?
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:10 PM   #2
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It wouldn't surprise me. These devices these days...
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:16 PM   #3
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People willfully let a greedy corporation listen to all their private business. SIRI says hello.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:19 PM   #4
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People willfully let a greedy corporation listen to all their private business. SIRI says hello.
I have Siri turned off so not too concerned about her.

My wife has an Amazon Echo Show in the kitchen and I know it listens to our voices but voice recognition technology is significantly different than listening to and identifying a television broadcast.

I'm pretty familiar with how data proliferation works - I know how Facebook does it and for the most part, how Amazon, Google, and Apple do it.

This one has me mystified though.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:20 PM   #5
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Could it be you browsed NFL or an NFL game before, that's the "history"?
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:21 PM   #6
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Could be pattern matched audio from the echo
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:21 PM   #7
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Could it be you browsed NFL or an NFL game before, that's the "history"?
Other than Chiefsplanet, I hadn't browsed any other sports-related sites.

Furthermore, I browse the internet, including CP, in a sandbox. There's no way for the CP window to share data with an Amazon session, even if I had an Amazon session open (I didn't).
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:22 PM   #8
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So I logged into my Amazon account this evening to order some razor blades and noticed that in my product browsing history is the Ravens/Cowboys game.

Why is that odd?

Because I didn't watch it on Amazon Prime. I didn't watch it via any streaming service. I didn't watch it on a smart TV, I didn't even watch it on a connected device.

I watched it OTA on a regular TV. I know those stupid smart home devices can hear you when you say their name and I'm sure they listen to my conversations on occasion but are they listening to what I'm ****ing watching on TV?
Happens all the damn time.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:23 PM   #9
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Could be pattern matched audio from the echo
That's what I'm thinking. Which is ****ing annoying for sure.

I know they're going to listen to me (my voice), that's one thing.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:23 PM   #10
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So I logged into my Amazon account this evening to order some razor blades and noticed that in my product browsing history is the Ravens/Cowboys game.

Why is that odd?

Because I didn't watch it on Amazon Prime. I didn't watch it via any streaming service. I didn't watch it on a smart TV, I didn't even watch it on a connected device.

I watched it OTA on a regular TV. I know those stupid smart home devices can hear you when you say their name and I'm sure they listen to my conversations on occasion but are they listening to what I'm ****ing watching on TV?
my son watched something. Not on my ID on YouTube, I get shit like that on my feed. I watch something on TV, I get similar shit for my Facebook ads. I’ve never asked for or searched for crochet shit. Get spam in my email.

It’s algorithm’s gone psycho
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:23 PM   #11
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Happens all the damn time.
So you've experienced this more than once, huh?
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:25 PM   #12
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Other than Chiefsplanet, I hadn't browsed any other sports-related sites.

Furthermore, I browse the internet, including CP, in a sandbox. There's no way for the CP window to share data with an Amazon session, even if I had an Amazon session open (I didn't).
I meant have you shopped on Amazon for anything related to the NFL.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:27 PM   #13
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my son watched something. Not on my ID on YouTube, I get shit like that on my feed. I watch something on TV, I get similar shit on Facebook. I’ve never asked for or searched for crochet shit. Get spam in my email.

It’s algorithm’s gone psycho
The Youtube app on a single device stores data globally, so it will push things to your feed under your login even if someone else watches things on their login.

If you're granting the FB app access to your microphone and camera, then theoretically it could listen to your TV although that would be undisclosed functionality (not they're above that, of course).

Email spam is almost always just random.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:28 PM   #14
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I meant have you shopped on Amazon for anything related to the NFL.
Nope. Haven't watched anything on Amazon Prime in months and haven't ever bought anything football-related on Amazon, even apparel.
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Old 12-08-2020, 11:32 PM   #15
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That's what I'm thinking. Which is ****ing annoying for sure.

I know they're going to listen to me (my voice), that's one thing.
Then they're gonna know where you hid that hooker's body.
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