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And that's why it's not going to work; SW is nothing BUT die-hards.
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01-20-2019, 10:44 AM | #4 |
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01-20-2019, 11:43 AM | #6 |
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Is there any, ANY hope that JJ pulls a miracle out and delivers an Episode IX worthy of this franchise? Really, it was only TLJ that was a clunker of a turd. Can he redeem it in one movie?
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01-20-2019, 12:41 PM | #7 | |
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I have, from time to time, clicked on some of the "nerd watch" channels at YT just trying to get any kind of a feel as to where they might be taking things. And thus far, EVERY SINGLE SPECULATION has been pure shit, whether founded in degrees of truth or not. |
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01-20-2019, 01:45 PM | #8 | |
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There is nothing there. JJ has to ignore VIII if he wants to save IX. |
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01-22-2019, 05:31 AM | #9 | |
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01-22-2019, 01:24 AM | #10 |
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Kylo isn't terrible. He's the most interesting Star Wars character ever.
They have him set up for a redemption arc. There is your drama. |
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This is correct. He is not terrible. In fact, he is not anything. He's neither good nor evil, exciting nor dull, COMPLETELY ambiguous.
If Kylo Ren were an action figure from the 70's, he would be..."Snaggletooth". Or perhaps "Hammerhead"; the action figures you buy to round out your collection, but which never see any real play time. Kylo Ren: The PERFECT antagonist for the Disney/KK/JJ pile of shit known as the post-Jedi Trilogy. Quote:
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01-22-2019, 01:36 AM | #12 |
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SPOILER ALERT: THIS IS ALL MY OWN THEORY... but...
In one of the new cannon books, Palpatine has an underground base on Jakku #fact. If you watch TLJ with the idea in mind that Rey is a genetic experiment created from Luke's missing hand on Bespin, it's EVERYWHERE. The movie has closeup after closeup of Rey's right hand in key moments. Enough so that they'll look like easter eggs (to enjoy after the big reveal in Episode IX). The very first moment in TLJ trailer was a clue. I think the entire mirror scene IS her realizing her worst fear, that she IS a clone and has no family. Her "parents" that sold her off for drinking money were indeed just that... scavengers that found Luke's hand and sold it to the Empire. I'm just as psycho about Star Wars as all of you, and I remember the very first draft leaks and rumored outline of the The Force Awakens (at that time) started with Luke's hand floating through space after the opening crawl. TFA's first draft was going to be about Finn & Rey finding Luke's hand... I just think they switched it up and realized that could be a big reveal. My 2 cents, I think Rey also has Palpatine genes in her DNA milkshake. Because she always fights with anger (among other reasons). This also "solves the problem" of her being too powerful, too soon. Kylo Ren clearly knows about "A GIRL" in TFA and is upset. He seems to go straight into trying to turn her let her know "she needs a teacher" because he has an idea of who she is and where she comes from. I haven't watched TFA for a long time but I would wonder if her hand is as called out in there as well... There are about 20 other shots of exclusively her right hand in TLJ, as well as close ups of Luke's right hand and even Kylo Ren's. There's a huge right-hand theme there. |
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It's amazing to me. Star Wars wrote its own ticket. It was absolutely a no lose entity, and they found a way to **** it up ROYALLY. The only thing I hope is that JJ somehow gets autonomy from KK and her "vision" and does IX justice. Considering Rogue One was what it turned out to be, there's a glimmer of hope. But just a glimmer. |
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