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Old 09-15-2019, 02:33 PM  
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Frank Clark ****ing sucks
Guy has done NOTHING in two games. Barely any pressures to speak of against trash OTs.

Yeah, I'm in bitchy gameday mode. Don't care. I'm tired of paying out the ass for defensive players who don't make plays.

At least Justin Houston could dominate against bad teams after we paid him.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:42 PM   #3601
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I think the difference in those years were Patrick Mahomes vs. Alex Smith. But that's just me though. I guess in your mind Frank Clark was the difference between us winning the superbowl those years.
No. I thought I made it quite clear, but I guess I have to be more blunt:

STEVEN SPAGNUOLO was the reason the Chiefs won Super Bowl LIV.

Bob Sutton, who liked guys that put up flashy numbers, LOST US A CHANCE AT GOING TO A SUPER BOWL.

Spags probably could've gotten it done with another DE of his choosing. But he chose Frank, just like he chose Tyrann.

Look, everyone likes flashy stuff like sacks. I like sacks. My favorite Chief until Patrick came along was Derrick Thomas, the king of sacks. I was at the game when he posted 7 sacks. But we lost that game.

And I was a big fan of the defense in 2014 and 2015, and 2017, and I loved the fact that the Chiefs led the league in sacks in 2018.

But that AFCCG forced me to look at defenses completely differently after that loss. Sack artists are great in their place. But if that's all they do, if they're niche type players that can't play the run, or play in coverage, or make plays to give opportunities to their teammates, ultimately they are a weakness, not a strength.

Sacks are not the best indicator of the overall effectiveness of a defense, imo.

But now I'm just repeating myself for like the 10th time, so I'm done, again.

Btw, good job on getting me to bite on your troll job. i even saw it coming, but couldn't help myself. Well done. Sorry I let it get personal though. Next time I'll do better on that.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:43 PM   #3602
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Clark had three tackles and one sack...in NOVEMBER.
Shhhhhh we’re 10-1 you’re not allowed to point out anything negative. They won’t let it slide.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:53 PM   #3603
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Shhhhhh we’re 10-1 you’re not allowed to point out anything negative. They won’t let it slide.
100% hyperbole.

No basis in truth whatsoever.
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Old 12-01-2020, 12:56 PM   #3604
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100% hyperbole.

No basis in truth whatsoever.
The team is currently 19-1 in the past calendar year but if you only read Chiefsplanet, you'd think they were 1-19.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:00 PM   #3605
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100% hyperbole.

No basis in truth whatsoever.
Yea it’s not like people like us haven’t clearly said that Clark has been disappointing this year in the regular season again.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:00 PM   #3606
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Yea it’s not like people like us haven’t clearly said that Clark has been disappointing this year in the regular season again.
In this thread even.

Just a couple of hours ago.

It's not hard to find if you're not completely ignoring reality.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:04 PM   #3607
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Lets not worry about Frank Clark . .

he'll step up when needed. .

we're 10-1.. the time will come again when the D is firing on all cylinders. .Clark and the Badger will make sure of that. .

never forget:
If he plays like he did last year in the playoffs, money well spent.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:05 PM   #3608
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Sammy Watkins is the Chiefs biggest offender in this category.

The Chiefs have shelled out $40 million dollars for 1,452 yards and 8 TD's over the past 2.5 seasons.
True. BUT dude stepped it up BIG TIME in the Playoffs last season.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:07 PM   #3609
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They were great in the playoffs.

They aren't worth the money in the regular season.

Both things can be true.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:09 PM   #3610
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They were great in the playoffs.

They aren't worth the money in the regular season.

Both things can be true.
Yep.

I wish they were getting more production from Watkins and Clark but they aren't unique to the NFL.

Guys sign huge contracts all the time and rarely live up to them.
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:11 PM   #3611
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Of course you don’t...

You said he has the worst contract in the league other than Taysom Hill. If we win another Super Bowl and he has another great playoff/SB performance, you will absolutely look like the butt****ing moron that you are.
If the Saints win the superbowl with Taysom playing a major role and with him winning the games he's winning at qb right now, does that mean he doesn't have a bad contract?

Clark was acquired for both the regular season and post season. Him having great performances in the post season should be the expectation. So should him him being great in the regular season.

You don't hear me shitting on Mahomes, Kelce, or Hill. They could decide to shut it down and only try in the post season and yet they're not. So yeah I'm hoping he plays well in the post season and dominates. That's the expectation I had if him when the chiefs gave up a 1st and 2nd round draft pick and $100 mil for him. But it doesn't excuse the 16 weeks of average at best play. Maybe if he plays up to expectations during the season we aren't looking at having to play wild card weekend and aren't looking at having to travel to Pittsburgh for the AFC Championship.
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The team is currently 19-1 in the past calendar year but if you only read Chiefsplanet, you'd think they were 1-19.
Depends on what thread you're in. Who would have thought a thread on an underperforming player would be mostly negative?!?
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Old 12-01-2020, 01:15 PM   #3613
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Sammy Watkins is the Chiefs biggest offender in this category.

The Chiefs have shelled out $40 million dollars for 1,452 yards and 8 TD's over the past 2.5 seasons.
And if Frank continues this trend he's going to make Sammy look like a bargain.
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Depends on what thread you're in. Who would have thought a thread on an underperforming player would be mostly negative?!?
It's not just this thread, it's nearly every thread.
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And if Frank continues this trend he's going to make Sammy look like a bargain.
Maybe?

But Chris Conley has nearly the same stats as Watkins while costing 1/10th the price.
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