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Old 03-10-2024, 12:52 AM   #3
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Bring back John Dorsey to draft and let Veach work the cap.

Best of both worlds.
He did win a lot of Super Bowls and did so well in CLE.
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Old 03-10-2024, 01:26 AM   #4
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He did win a lot of Super Bowls and did so well in CLE.
He also drafted 4 Hall of Famers in like 5 drafts in KC.

He’s one of the great talent evaluators in NFL history.

Veach has been great but I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge that there would be no Super Bowls without John Dorsey as there would be no Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill.

This man built the core of the Chiefs dynasty and Veach fine tuned it.
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Old 03-10-2024, 03:14 AM   #5
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He also drafted 4 Hall of Famers in like 5 drafts in KC.

He’s one of the great talent evaluators in NFL history.

Veach has been great but I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge that there would be no Super Bowls without John Dorsey as there would be no Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill.

This man built the core of the Chiefs dynasty and Veach fine tuned it.
I would take Veach over Dorsey every time without the slightest hesitation. He may even be a better overall evaluator when you consider his later round picks and the overall quantity of contributors. But, yeah, those picks were unreal by Dorsey and obviously are a MASSIVE reason for our success. I don't really get why people don't think "he did a great job for us in the draft, and then we upgraded with a guy who could also deal with the cap and wasnt a bellend"...both have been huge reasons for our success.
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Old 03-10-2024, 07:27 AM   #6
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He also drafted 4 Hall of Famers in like 5 drafts in KC.

He’s one of the great talent evaluators in NFL history.

Veach has been great but I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge that there would be no Super Bowls without John Dorsey as there would be no Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill.

This man built the core of the Chiefs dynasty and Veach fine tuned it.
We would have Mahomes without John Dorsey.
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Old 03-10-2024, 08:29 AM   #7
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He also drafted 4 Hall of Famers in like 5 drafts in KC.

He’s one of the great talent evaluators in NFL history.

Veach has been great but I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge that there would be no Super Bowls without John Dorsey as there would be no Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill.

This man built the core of the Chiefs dynasty and Veach fine tuned it.
He did draft Mahomes, but only because of Veach and his obsession over him. Hill was a gamble that paid off, and Kelce/Jones were good picks by Dorsey. Now they won 1 SB with Hill. The last 2 SBs were absolutely a product of Veach’s drafting more than just Dorsey’s players. You fail to give Veach much credit because of some bizarre man crush on Dorsey. It’s genuinely sad.
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He also drafted 4 Hall of Famers in like 5 drafts in KC.

He’s one of the great talent evaluators in NFL history.

Veach has been great but I don’t understand why we can’t acknowledge that there would be no Super Bowls without John Dorsey as there would be no Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Chris Jones or Tyreek Hill.

This man built the core of the Chiefs dynasty and Veach fine tuned it.
Who's the better GM? Dorsey or Veach?

If you say Dorsey I'mma smacka you in da face!!
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Old 03-10-2024, 11:41 AM   #9
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Serious question. Can anybody name a day 3 pick Dorsey made his entire time here outside of Tyreek Hill?
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Old 03-10-2024, 11:43 AM   #10
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Serious question. Can anybody name a day 3 pick Dorsey made his entire time here outside of Tyreek Hill?
How could you forget Dadi Nicolas?
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Old 03-10-2024, 06:44 PM   #13
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The only logical conclusion I can draw from this is Brett Veach had sex with comochiefsfan's mum and Dorsey is his dad.
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Dorsey was very good at evaluating talent but so is Veach. We got our 1st Lombardi of the Reid era thanks in part to Burt's savviness and ability to identify talent. Bringing in Frank Clark, Tyrann Matthew and Damien Williams proved crucial. Without those three guys, we don't win the SB. Drafting talent is one piece of the puzzle. Adding complimentary pieces is where Burt has done the heavy damage.
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