***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

it's the same thing here yet I saw people outside or doing bullshit when I was dropping my room mates gf off yesterday.

yeah i'm not sure people are even reading whats being written...


people can go to the store, pharmacy, even for a jog outside...

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I still have some Bounce in an emergency.

coffee filters!

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

what surgeries are going to be occuring during all this?

I assume life threatening and those done by specialists who can’t really contribute in the fight against Corona? Though nurses may be in short supply...

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I figured , but wasn’t sure about icu nurses having some experience around them maybe being able to help.

RN's are already super busy with all the other tasks that go into keeping people alive in the ICU. They are usually more overloaded with work than RT's.

[RINGLEADER]

It should be noted that US infection numbers are off where they were at this time yesterday. We knew we would get a spike from more testing but need to see more data thru the day to see if yesterday’s 4500+ cases was an anomaly.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

what surgeries are going to be occuring during all this?

Originally Posted by stumppy

I would think only those that are absolutely necessary.

This.


Elective surgery has been canceled all over the USA.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

it's the same thing here yet I saw people outside or doing bullshit when I was dropping my room mates gf off yesterday.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4

Coming Soon! ID2020 - Digital ID with Vaccines

the mark of the beast

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

yeah i'm not sure people are even reading whats being written...


people can go to the store, pharmacy, even for a jog outside...

You can even play golf... can get your own cart even with a group of 4, checking in with your phone, leave the flag stick in, and the cup is 1.25 “ higher than the green so all you have to do is touch the cup with your ball. Been too cold to go here in KC .. but the courses are open for now..

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

ummm the SBA classifies it as 500 or less...up to 1500 in some industries.


i should know, there have been things ive not qualified for over the years due to not having enough employees

Yeah, we've utilized the SBA a couple times over the last 10 years and over that time have hovered between 90 and 150 employees. I think we may have peaked at 175 when we used a lot of part-time staff.

In either event, we've damn sure never fallen below 25.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

yeah i'm not sure people are even reading whats being written...


people can go to the store, pharmacy, even for a jog outside...

Saw a video of a Chinese doctor who worked on the Wuhan outbreak who had gone to help the Italians. He was aghast that they were still going to grocery stores and pharmacies and for walks outside and essentially said that you have to stay inside to really curtail the spread.

Don’t know if he knows what he’s talking about or not but I’ve never understood how you stop the spread of this if people are still congregating at grocery stores. One person who is infected touches an item and its capable of being transmitted.

[displacedinMN]

One more trip to the store today-with my nose covered-then we think we will be good for two weeks. This is why we bought 1/4 beef a while ago.

we may end up eating some crazy meals and drink a lot of water and alcohol-but we can make it.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

The grocery stores are open, but you can't leave your residence to go shopping.

Seems logical.

That's not how it works.

[notorious]

All the restaurant ads on TV are touting delivery.

That happened fast.

[oaklandhater]

Sorry, America, the Full Lockdown Is Coming

Politicians won’t admit it yet, but it’s time to prepare—physically and psychologically—for a sudden stop to all life outside your home.


https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/18...ckdown-coming/

how many more days do you guys think until we are in a full lockdown nation wide ?