Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"

[aturnis]

Anyone watch the unveil last night?



The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible.

- 0-60 in 5 sec
- 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs
- 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi
- 500 mile range
- 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge
- Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil
- Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road)
- 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown
- Will never need a brake change
- "Impossible" to jacknife
- Beats semis on economics day 1
- In convoy mode, beats rail on economics

300 miles of range: $150,000
500 miles of range: $180,000
Founders series: $200,000




https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas
The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg.

- 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars)
- 0-100 in 4.2
- 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec
- 250+ mph top speed
- 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling)
- 10,000 nm torque

and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars.



Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed.

https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA

[In58men]

Gotta charge my car then we can leave. No thanks.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

Gotta charge my car then we can leave. No thanks.

It'll be at full charge everyday when you wake up.

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[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by In58men

Gotta charge my car then we can leave. No thanks.

It's no different than getting gas

[Simply Red]

Tesla is going out of business. They've already announced it - I didn't read the whole thread - but it's all over the web.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Tesla is going out of business. They've already announced it - I didn't read the whole thread - but it's all over the web.

They used to say Amazon was an unprofitable venture and was going out of business. Now Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world. Tesla has too much Google money and other rich peoples investments to fail I think.

They are just currently not profitable and struggling to produce as many Model 3's as they hoped. They'll eventually produce enough, and they have more than enough demand to become profitable eventually and as more EV infrastructure and superchargers become available and seen by the public. Every day EV cars will become more and more acceptable, and sought after. Less Billy Bobs who want to hear their engine go vroom vroom and the smell of gas, and more nerds who care about the environment and innovative tech.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by BWillie

They used to say Amazon was an unprofitable venture and was going out of business. Now Jeff Bezos is the richest man in the world. Tesla has too much Google money and other rich peoples investments to fail I think.

They are just currently not profitable and struggling to produce as many Model 3's as they hoped. They'll eventually produce enough, and they have more than enough demand to become profitable eventually and as more EV infrastructure and superchargers become available and seen by the public. Every day EV cars will become more and more acceptable, and sought after. Less Billy Bobs who want to hear their engine go vroom vroom and the smell of gas, and more nerds who care about the environment and innovative tech.

They are unsustainable in their current form. If they don't figure out how to lower the price enough to be able to sell sufficient quantity and how to produce said sufficient quantity they will die or change.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

Tesla is going out of business. They've already announced it - I didn't read the whole thread - but it's all over the web.

Yeah. It's terrible reading the incredibly biased and I'll informed opinions of the Wall Street power brokers. Literally 9 of every 10 stories that come across the wire are negative. Give no credit for 100X growth over 5 yrs, or forcing the entire auto industry to admit defeat and invoke plans tho electrify their entire fleets by 2020.

Truth is, traditional auto makers see profit margins of around 5-7% on moist all offerings outside of trucks. Tesla enjoys 25% margins, and expect to replicate that with the Model 3.

"If they really have high margins, then why do they lose money every quarter?". Henry Ford lost bookoo bucks pouring together the supply chain for the Model T, but it had to be built in order to achieve his vision. Tesla is growing at a faster rate than Ford did btw.

Fact is, if Tesla wanted to be profitable, they would just need to stop growing. That's be fine, if you're fine with producing 100,000 cars a year, but that doesn't really move the needle does it?

[DaKCMan AP]

Awesome, but they need to prove that they can actually produce these products. Terrible job thus far on the Model 3.

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Awesome, but they need to prove that they can actually produce these products. Terrible job thus far on the Model 3.

The logistics have to be a nightmare, but they have come a long way.

I found it pretty cool on our trip to Montana last year that we stopped in at least three gas stations that had Tesla charging stations.

One was actually being used and the car ended up passing us within an hour on the highway.

Electric motors have an advantage as they get up to rpm instantly thus the performance numbers.

Now the battery suppliers just needs to get their shit together.

[rockymtnchief]

Originally Posted by HemiEd

The logistics have to be a nightmare, but they have come a long way.

I found it pretty cool on our trip to Montana last year that we stopped in at least three gas stations that had Tesla charging stations.

One was actually being used and the car ended up passing us within an hour on the highway.

Electric motors have an advantage as they get up to rpm instantly thus the performance numbers.

Now the battery suppliers just needs to get their shit together.

All four of the stalls were being used when I went to The Fort (across from the Frosty Freeze) this morning.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

Awesome, but they need to prove that they can actually produce these products. Terrible job thus far on the Model 3.

Terrible job? They're barely behind an accelerated schedule.

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[nychief]

It's going to upend the trucking industry in the future. Self driving trucks, electric....

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by nychief

It's going to upend the trucking industry in the future. Self driving trucks, electric....

That's good, shortage of drivers now, however, it will be a job killer. Have to have on board computers in the trailers to allow access.


Plus the warehouse and consignees have to have the new computer equipment to communicate with the truck and it's pay load.

What about the flatbed and oversize freight that needs to move, who is going to do this work?

[morphius]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Terrible job? They're barely behind an accelerated schedule.

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Reports are that their fit and finish on the 3 are pretty rough, gaps all out of whack, doors not lined up, etc, etc. I REALLY want them to be a good car company, but we'll have to wait and see.