***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

There is nothing there but personal insults.

There’s a lot of that. I’d like to post about politics in the Lounge but it isn’t allowed so I do it there.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Good movie but lacks realism.

Contagion is a really good movie

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contagion_(2011_film)

[eDave]

Super-rich jet off to disaster bunkers amid coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...saster-bunkers

Wealthy turning to private jets to escape coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/business...virus-outbreak

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by eDave

Super-rich jet off to disaster bunkers amid coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...saster-bunkers

Wealthy turning to private jets to escape coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/business...virus-outbreak

Seems prudent

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by eDave

Super-rich jet off to disaster bunkers amid coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...saster-bunkers

Wealthy turning to private jets to escape coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/business...virus-outbreak

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Outbreak (1995) was really good too. Dustin Hoffman And Morgan Freeman

Absurdist philosophical novel, The Plague, by Albert Camus. Initially the outbreak is downplayed by officials and optimistic outlooks are provided. Eventually mass social distancing and quarantine are employed.

Also a good time to read the Denial of Death by Ernest Becker. We learn to repress thoughts of our mortality, but it is always near the surface of our consciousness, ready to assert itself in times like these. This is a life transforming book.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by eDave

Super-rich jet off to disaster bunkers amid coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...saster-bunkers

Wealthy turning to private jets to escape coronavirus outbreak

https://www.theguardian.com/business...virus-outbreak

They tried hiding and holding up in their estates during the plague. Didnt help much.

[Mecca]

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If one person tested positive, that likely means a dozen are currently infectious.

Ok. How many people are contagious with the flu? Local school was only running at about 80% attendance for an entire week two weeks ago.

Originally Posted by ptlyon

You use your mouth purtier than a $20 whore.

Can you use your tie to tie me up, ty?

I didn't use my mouth to post that. And I really don't have a clue what you are trying to say. But if I owned a tie you could have it to do whatever you'd want with it.

Originally Posted by cdcox

The response is not overblown. Canceling stuff is to prevent the disease from spreading too fast and overwhelming our heath care system. Survival rates for the vulnerable populations you mention will greatly increase if they have access to health care. Very reasonable response.

So how come nobody batted an eye when the school ran low attendance because of so many kids out with the flu or flu symptoms? Kids are more likely to get the flu than this but there was zero talk of canceling school. The health care system was getting clogged up with people with the flu and I'm sure theres lots of people who were at risk who didnt get the flu shot. Shouldn't there have been some reaction to that?

There wasn't. Just 'oh be careful its flu season'

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Ok. How many people are contagious with the flu? Local school was only running at about 80% attendance for an entire week two weeks ago.



I didn't use my mouth to post that. And I really don't have a clue what you are trying to say. But if I owned a tie you could have it to do whatever you'd want with it.



So how come nobody batted an eye when the school ran low attendance because of so many kids out with the flu or flu symptoms? Kids are more likely to get the flu than this but there was zero talk of canceling school. The health care system was getting clogged up with people with the flu and I'm sure theres lots of people who were at risk who didnt get the flu shot. Shouldn't there have been some reaction to that?

There wasn't. Just 'oh be careful its flu season'

Dude what they are concerned about is the kids spreading the virus between each other then giving it to grandma or to their dad that has cancer etc etc.

[SuperBowl4]

Remember what Ronald Reagan told us? The nine most terrifying words in the english language are "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

[notorious]

Kids will leave school from all over the US to go hang out together at beaches and bars for Spring Break.

[Loneiguana]

Originally Posted by notorious

Kids will leave school from all over the US to go hang out together at beaches and bars for Spring Break.

They interviewed some MU students on the news last night, asking about the school going to all online until after spring break (two and half weeks).

One girl said basically "dont understand why they want us back on campus after everyone travels on spring break."

Girls got a point. I assume closures will go on longer.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Loneiguana

They interviewed some MU students on the news last night, asking about the school going to all online until after spring break (two and half weeks).

One girl said basically "dont understand why they want us back on campus after everyone travels on spring break."

Girls got a point. I assume closures will go on longer.

Smart girl.

This is all being done to slow down the spread to help with treatment. There is no stopping it.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by notorious

Smart girl.

This is all being done to slow down the spread to help with treatment. There is no stopping it.

Didn't even think of that. Not good.