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Old 07-24-2017, 07:06 AM  
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Clark Hunt, Brett Veach & Andy Reid press conference

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This should be entertaining..
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:24 PM   #166
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At least we have a quarterback that can test the next 10 years or more for us so the guys we draft now will be developing right along with Patrick MahomesII and they will be doing some amazing things together. So we can build this thing and keep after it one draft at a time.


Boom Ch Ka I'm stoked I think Veach will do just fine drafting for us. He's not even old so he has fresh take for open ideas that even Andy Reid can take from imo.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:30 PM   #167
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At least we have a quarterback that can test the next 10 years or more for us so the guys we draft now will be developing right along with Patrick MahomesII and they will be doing some amazing things together. So we can build this thing and keep after it one draft at a time.


Boom Ch Ka I'm stoked I think Veach will do just fine drafting for us. He's not even old so he has fresh take for open ideas that even Andy Reid can take from imo.
Honestly after Smith our offense is so young. Schwartz would be the oldest guy on the offense and he just turned 28. Our receivers are so young. Kelce is young. Hunt and Ware are young. Offense looks promising
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:30 PM   #168
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EVERY GM has bad draft whiffs on their record. Even the Patriots do. It happens.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:40 PM   #169
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I do hope he deviates slightly from Dorsey's philosophy of top picks. It's one thing to occasionally draft for raw athletes. A number of them (Peters and Jones specifically) are okay because the shit that causes them to fall can be overlooked and examined with the excellent coaches and atmosphere on staff. The shit I'm talking about is continually over relying on athletes and potential over solid traits that produce immediate contributors.

No, I'm not saying draft for need. I'm saying maybe it's be better to find pass rushers or OTs that don't stop sucking hippo testicles until their third season. Maybe the less strong guy that doesn't require near the amount of transition time is better. Sometimes. I'm looking for more of a balance
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:44 PM   #170
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So, does anyone believe Clark's story and not believe that Reid got Dorsey pushed out now?
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:46 PM   #171
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No, I'm not saying draft for need. I'm saying maybe it's be better to find pass rushers or OTs that don't stop sucking hippo testicles until their third season. Maybe the less strong guy that doesn't require near the amount of transition time is better. Sometimes. I'm looking for more of a balance
Dorsey's best draft choices were generally guys with issues.

Kelce (suspended for weed), Hill (Domestic Violence), Peters (may or may not have punched a coach, dismissed from the team), Chris Jones (lack of motivation and motor, poor work ethic), etc.

I don't mind drafting for upside in the later rounds, like he did with Fulton, LDT, DJ Alexander, Ramik Wilson and others, but I'd prefer to see Veach draft guys in the early rounds that are closer to a "Finished Product".

The Eric Fisher and Dee Ford approach needs to be a thing of the past, IMO.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:48 PM   #172
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He's an excellent situational pass rusher.

Quit equating his worth to the pick given for him. That's over and done.

The problem isn't Ford's value it's his looming contract and the inevitability we'll have to pay more to keep him than he's worth....
Dee Ford has lived up to the first round choice. He doesn't have to be all-pro to be worth a late 1.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:50 PM   #173
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Dee Ford has lived up to the first round choice. He doesn't have to be all-pro to be worth a late 1.
The problem with the Ford selection is that he was invisible in 2014 and 2015.

He had a breakout 2016 but that's just not good value for a 1st rounder.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:51 PM   #174
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Per Matt Derrick

Derrick Johnson just walked down the sidewalk. Looks like he's reporting with the injured players attending camp with rookies & QBs.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:53 PM   #175
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So, does anyone believe Clark's story and not believe that Reid got Dorsey pushed out now?
Do you believe anything happened today to sway anyone's opinion?
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:56 PM   #176
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I do hope he deviates slightly from Dorsey's philosophy of top picks. It's one thing to occasionally draft for raw athletes. A number of them (Peters and Jones specifically) are okay because the shit that causes them to fall can be overlooked and examined with the excellent coaches and atmosphere on staff. The shit I'm talking about is continually over relying on athletes and potential over solid traits that produce immediate contributors.

No, I'm not saying draft for need. I'm saying maybe it's be better to find pass rushers or OTs that don't stop sucking hippo testicles until their third season. Maybe the less strong guy that doesn't require near the amount of transition time is better. Sometimes. I'm looking for more of a balance
I think a lot of that is the coaching staff. They've taken these boom or bust players and mostly hit on them.
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Old 07-24-2017, 01:57 PM   #177
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The problem with the Ford selection is that he was invisible in 2014 and 2015.

He had a breakout 2016 but that's just not good value for a 1st rounder.
He had a decent season in 15.
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:01 PM   #178
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DJ will not start on PUP. Ehinger & Dadi will.

Damn DJ healed fast
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Old 07-24-2017, 02:08 PM   #179
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Chris Jones had knee surgery 2 weeks ago and is on the PUP.

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Old 07-24-2017, 02:09 PM   #180
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Reid looks like he has dropped a fair amount of weight during the offseason.
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