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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 04-03-2020, 06:24 AM   #4411
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Old 04-03-2020, 07:19 AM   #4412
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I've been watching for several years now, and they've always outperformed the S&P 500 and Dow. I figured they'd underperform in a bear market, but nope.
I've noticed this too and wondered. Take a day 3 years ago where the S&P was up 1% the NASDAQ would be up 1.7%. Vice versa for down. It's always been more volatile so I wondered why it was holding up better.

I knew it was tech heavy and excluded financials. Looking through that list, it looks like it's outperforming more by avoiding downside than gaining upside. It's out performance is based on stocks it doesn't include

It has no
Financials (Bank of America is down 40%)
Oil and Gas (complete massacre)

1 airline, 1 travel company, 1 hotel, and 1 closed retailer that's been mauled (Ulta 50% down)

Any grouping of stocks that avoided the major blast zones would be outperforming. It does have a lot of MSFT & AMZN and they've been lucky to benefit from the coronavirus situation. The big 5 or so tech stocks are all very safe and cash flush and you'd expect money to flock to safety.
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Old 04-03-2020, 08:13 AM   #4413
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Here's why I'd be hesitant to long Disney at this present moment in one picture courtesy of the Fool:



Tesla is a meme company. Nothing about their valuation makese sense. Their merger with SolarCity a few years ago borders on criminal malfeasance.

If you've got enough money to buy a share and it's not going to hamper your overall goals then why not. Otherwise nope. I don't believe in a con man like Elon Musk.
People are always going to go to their parks. I think once a vaccine is created, people will slowly go back and if you long that thing, that’s what matters right?

Their new CEO was in charge of running the parks and all aspects of that side of the business too. Feel like he’s going to make that a priority.

Like I said before, this feels so much like 9/11 to me. People were scared of going to parks and history shows buying in at that point was a good deal.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:22 PM   #4414
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:40 PM   #4415
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People are always going to go to their parks. I think once a vaccine is created, people will slowly go back and if you long that thing, that’s what matters right?
I like how you put this. If I've got a 20-year time horizon, do I think that Disney will be fully recovered in 20 years? Do I think any of these companies will be fully recovered? My hunch is yes.
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Old 04-04-2020, 06:56 PM   #4416
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Thanks for the suggestions.

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Old 04-04-2020, 09:15 PM   #4417
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I like how you put this. If I've got a 20-year time horizon, do I think that Disney will be fully recovered in 20 years? Do I think any of these companies will be fully recovered? My hunch is yes.
The company work for is very conservative and our President is even more so. He is very confident that by December-February we will have a vaccine ready to go . We will have tens of millions ready by the time it’s approved and a billion or more by the end of next year .

My take is the market bounces back had if this happens and I think by 2022 things are better than even and completely bounced back and then some . I think 2021 will have huge gains as the vaccine is announced and by the end of the year when most people have had their shot the economy will
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Old 04-06-2020, 08:46 AM   #4418
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“This will be the worst week. A very painful week is coming.”

Dow up 1,100. Okay I’m confused. Did not think there would be any green this week
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Old 04-06-2020, 08:51 AM   #4419
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“This will be the worst week. A very painful week is coming.”

Dow up 1,100. Okay I’m confused. Did not think there would be any green this week
Markets are not rational.
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Old 04-06-2020, 08:53 AM   #4420
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Old 04-06-2020, 09:14 AM   #4421
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Dow up 1,100. Okay I’m confused. Did not think there would be any green this week
The market is based around the future.

Even if you're expecting a slow rebound, people obviously expect things to get better after the peak. Moving the peak from a few months from now to a week from now should indeed cause the market to go up as we've magically eliminated months of punishment from the equation.
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The market is based around the future.

Even if you're expecting a slow rebound, people obviously expect things to get better after the peak. Moving the peak from a few months from now to a week from now should indeed cause the market to go up as we've magically eliminated months of punishment from the equation.
Or there is a deliberate effort to distort market values in an upward direction.
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Saudi took a decent stake in Carnival Cruise Lines..
Let them

All those cruise lines pay taxes elsewhere anyway
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Carnival is the biggest cruise line in the world and turns large profit so they likely see it as a buy low, turn profit investment.
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