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Old 09-16-2019, 06:35 PM   #2
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:10 PM   #3
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I knew about this before saying anything about race, so this is ok?


https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...e+running+back

Tons of race talk here, so why would I think it was some problem?
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:22 PM   #4
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I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:28 PM   #5
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I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...
Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that's a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:35 PM   #6
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Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that's a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???
People have been saying this for about 30 years now. There have always been athletic fast QB's and they've never 'taken over' the NFL. McNabb and Vick were supposed to usher in a whole new era. That didn't' really happen. Then the read option was going to make athletic QB's the default. That didn't happen.

The NFL revolutionizes athletic QB's, not the other way around. Mahomes is great because he's awesome at what a QB needs to be awesome at: Throwing the football. His mobility is just gravy on an already stacked meal.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:30 PM   #7
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I don't think anybody on this board said a word about Mahomes being black when he was drafted. Most people on this board wanted a white QB (Alex Smith) replaced by Mohomes. No one gave a shit about Mahomes color.

Also, running QB's don't last long in the NFL. Do you not hold your breath when Mahomes runs with it? Look at Cam Newton. Look at Kapernick (though he had no throwing accuracy either.) Look at Vick. Look at RGIII.

You're ragging the wrong group......everyone in here loves Pat Mahomes.

Take your insecurities elsewhere...
Huh???? Insecurities????

Where are you getting that from? I'm just talking about where the NFL is heading and that is a more athletic QB, and it's real obvious.

I;m not talking about a sprinter at QB, just a guy with mobility, something an Eli, Rivers, Marino, Fouts, Brady, Brees, don't have.

Mahomes..???

Compare what Dak Prescott can do vs Kirk Cousins.

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Old 09-16-2019, 05:34 PM   #8
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Is this an NFL record...

Cowboys...Dak Prescott
Saints....Teddy Bridgewater
Buc's...Jameis Winston
Panthers...Cam Newton
Seahawks....Russell Wilson
Colts...Jacoby Brissett
Texans...Deshaun Watson
Chiefs...Patrick Mahomes
Cards...Kyler Murray
Ravens...Lamar Jackson
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:38 PM   #9
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Is this an NFL record...

Cowboys...Dak Prescott
Saints....Teddy Bridgewater
Buc's...Jameis Winston
Panthers...Cam Newton
Seahawks....Russell Wilson
Colts...Jacoby Brissett
Texans...Deshaun Watson
Chiefs...Patrick Mahomes
Cards...Kyler Murray
Ravens...Lamar Jackson
Wilson and Mahomes are the only QB's you list above that I would want QB'ing my team! Maybe Murray...
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:36 PM   #10
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You're insecure as hell!!!! Everyone sees it. That's why all your posts deal with black this, black that. Insecurity, plain and simple.

Your original post on this thread was racist as hell.....why it's still on the board, who knows!

I'm hoping like hell Mahomes is the first black QB to win 5 Super Bowls in a row!!!!
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:40 PM   #11
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You're insecure as hell!!!! Everyone sees it. That's why all your posts deal with black this, black that. Insecurity, plain and simple.

Your original post on this thread was racist as hell.....why it's still on the board, who knows!

I'm hoping like hell Mahomes is the first black QB to win 5 Super Bowls in a row!!!!
Why would anyone be insecure about NFL QB's, ha~~~~

Dude, there are tons of threads here about race, TONS.

What is racist about talking black QB's? Are we suppose to play pretend?
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:45 PM   #12
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Why would anyone be insecure about NFL QB's, ha~~~~

Dude, there are tons of threads here about race, TONS.

What is racist about talking black QB's? Are we suppose to play pretend?
Yes, we get it. You think blacks are better.

Are we going to talk about athleticism of the QB position, which is interesting, or are we just going to talk about melanin levels of said QB's?

Cos that argument has been sitting on a roadside dead since the 90's.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:58 PM   #13
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Yes, we get it. You think blacks are better.

Are we going to talk about athleticism of the QB position, which is interesting, or are we just going to talk about melanin levels of said QB's?

Cos that argument has been sitting on a roadside dead since the 90's.
There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.
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Old 09-16-2019, 06:00 PM   #14
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There are no black QB's on a par with Brady/Montana/Rodgers/Brees/Marino/Peyton, so no I don't think we are better. What I think is QB's need to put more stress on a defense in todays game, and being able to move around, pick up that third and 7 with their legs is where the game is going and we see it with who is coming out of the NCAA, and the HS's.
What we see are the natural consequence of 30 years of not discriminating against black QB's after decades of doing exactly that.

Obviously the numbers would level off. Black QB's in college and HS aren't new.

The QB position will always favor the guys who are the best at throwing the football. ALWAYS.
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:44 PM   #15
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