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Old 06-20-2021, 10:00 PM
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Old 06-20-2021, 10:39 AM   #2
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So was doing some more looking at this.

This is win10. They are just finally iterating it to an 11 version number, but it is literally just an update for 10. Everything internally in the operating system still says 10.

Preliminary mixed reviews in all types of workflow from basic desktop to workstation use to gaming. Its just marketing and an update.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:03 PM   #3
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I'll be damned. It's like a new computer over here. It's loading EVERYTHING super fast. My stock screener has no glitches or pauses. Web pages are loading quicker than ever for a computer I've owned. That took me a whopping 5 minutes and was super easy to install.

I really appreciate the help in here. I spent $70 to do this and saved a ton, as I was about ready to just purchase a new computer because this one was running so slow.

eDave, thanks for letting me text you and helping. I know I'm slow, thank you for your patience. I owe you a beer.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:28 PM
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Old 06-24-2021, 12:01 PM   #6
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Microsoft has unveiled the next generation of its Windows software, called Windows 11, that has sleeker visual features and is more open to third-party apps.

The newest version of Microsoft's flagship operating system announced Thursday will be a successor to today's Windows 10, which the company introduced in 2015.

In a challenge to rival Apple, the company also announced that it won't force app developers to pay fees to Microsoft for using its app store; and that Google's popular Android apps will run on its new system.

Windows 11 is expected to become available later this year on new computers and other devices and as a free update for those with Windows 10. It includes a host of cosmetic upgrades, such as a new Start button, a revamped task bar and sounds, and under-the-hood features designed to boost speed and efficiency.

While opening more doors to third-party developers, it also further entrenches Microsoft's workplace chatting tool Teams by making it easier to contact people when starting up.

Forrester analyst J.P. Gownder said the aesthetic, user-friendly improvements reflect CEO Satya Nadella's promise to build products that people will "love," not tolerate, though Gownder questioned whether Windows 11 is truly a new generation of software. The fact that it is built on the same core code base as Windows 10 might actually be a good thing, he added, because it could avoid the technical glitches that plagued the release of Windows Vista in 2007.

Microsoft's virtual announcement event was itself affected by technical difficulties Thursday, forcing the company to recommend some viewers watch it on Twitter instead.

When it launched Windows 10 six years ago, Microsoft was hoping that the new operating system would help it rebuild loyalty among users who were increasingly relying on tablets, smartphones and other devices.

Windows has been a PC workhorse for decades. Its first version launched in 1985, offering computer novices a "graphical user interface" so they could click on icons and menus with a mouse button rather than simply type commands into a blank screen.

It's been a core part of Microsoft's business ever since, though its influence waned as PC sales declined with the rise of smartphones.

Microsoft said it would allow developers to bypass the payments system in its app store if they have their own commerce engine.

That could create problems for Apple, which has faced government scrutiny over its app store and a legal battle from Epic, the maker of the popular Fortnite game, which contends Apple has been gouging app makers by charging commissions ranging from 15% to 30% for in-app transactions because it forbids other options on its iPhone, iPad and iPod.

"I believe this will be problematic for Apple in its antitrust dealings," said tech analyst Patrick Moorhead. "Apple charging 30% in its store and Microsoft charging 0% and 15% if you use its commerce engine. Global antitrust units are currently scrutinizing Apple on this very point."

Moorhead said the easier access to third-party apps, combined with the better user interface promised with Windows 11, could help Microsoft get a stronger hold in the premium tablet market, now dominated by the iPad.
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Old 06-24-2021, 02:16 PM   #7
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The problem is that Windows is the most insecure OS on earth and one of the biggest reasons is the ability to bypass the walled garden for app installation.

This doesn't change anything for Apple because this isn't new.
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Old 06-24-2021, 02:26 PM   #8
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A large part of my job is packaging and pushing software and MDM profiles to large numbers of computers. Apple's last two operating systems have been a huge pain in the ass for people like me. Apple has currently went way overboard with their personal privacy controls as of late. They've locked their OS down to the point it's very difficult for admins like me to properly manage them for our users. Apple seems insistent on cutting out any middle management between itself and the end users, to the detriment of developers.

Windows is seemingly going the opposite direction. Especially with the ability to run Android apps natively. LOL.

Both Windows and OS X could use a slight course correction...
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Old 06-24-2021, 02:29 PM   #9
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A large part of my job is packaging and pushing software and MDM profiles to large numbers of computers. Apple's last two operating systems have been a huge pain in the ass for people like me. Apple has currently went way overboard with their personal privacy controls as of late. They've locked their OS down to the point it's very difficult for admins like me to properly manage them for our users. Apple seems insistent on cutting out any middle management between itself and the end users, to the detriment of developers.

Windows is seemingly going the opposite direction. Especially with the ability to run Android apps natively. LOL.

Both Windows and OS X could use a slight course correction...
Yep.
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Old 06-24-2021, 02:45 PM   #10
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I'm not a gamer but I thought I'd share this info for those of you who are:

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Windows 11 update will add multiple features for gamers including two key features utilized by the company’s Xbox consoles – Auto HDR and DirectStorage.

With Auto HDR, Windows 11 will make it easier to turn high dynamic range on or off if the hardware supports it. It will better stabilize it if switched on and automatically upgrade titles to HDR when possible.

Direct Storage loads game assets directly to the GPU instead of through the CPU to avoid bottlenecks. It also makes use of higher read and write speeds of NVMe storage, PCIe 4.0 and the upcoming PCIe 5.0 standard.

Additionally, the Xbox app is built directly into Windows 11, with deeper integration of Xbox Game Pass. Subscribers will be able to download and stream titles using Xbox cloud gaming. It also allows cross-play between consoles and PCs.
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Old 06-24-2021, 02:57 PM   #11
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More multiple screen options as well.
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Its garbage, the sand boxing will lead to so much of a headach. But then again the business world will no update to this for 2 years.

But designing your OS with "Streaming" in mind is ****ing moronic. No one wants to use Microsoft tools for streaming when there are much better streaming applications that are open source.

Some of these features like HDR are nice, but mark my words. When someone works all day on something then accidently closes their VM or god forbid a Update restart *shudder*
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Old 06-24-2021, 03:36 PM   #13
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Its garbage, the sand boxing will lead to so much of a headach. But then again the business world will no update to this for 2 years.

But designing your OS with "Streaming" in mind is ****ing moronic. No one wants to use Microsoft tools for streaming when there are much better streaming applications that are open source.

Some of these features like HDR are nice, but mark my words. When someone works all day on something then accidently closes their VM or god forbid a Update restart *shudder*
Win10 end of life is slated for October, 2025.
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Old 06-24-2021, 09:53 PM   #14
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Windows 11 better not **** up my “new” computer!!
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Old 06-24-2021, 10:34 PM   #15
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Windows 11 better not **** up my “new” computer!!
Windows 11 will be fine. Windows updates/upgrades are infinitely better than they were a decade ago. It's a free and painless process these days for the typical end user. Some here are exaggerating the concerns quite a bit. Outside of lazy IT management, updates/upgrades shouldn't be avoided these days....
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