Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-16-2020, 09:14 AM  
Wallcrawler Wallcrawler is offline
How tall is this thing?
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ground 0 for enema of US.
Lamar Jackson wasn't, isn't, and never will be better than Patrick Mahomes

This "Lamar Jackson is in the same league as Mahomes" nonsense on every football related show I see needs to stop.

Lamar Jackson, on the biggest stage, has now shit down his leg in both opportunities. Lamar is a player who has to have everything around him working perfectly to have success. Put him down 2 scores and ask him to carry the team, he cannot answer the bell.

There's a big difference between a running quarterback, and a quarterback who can run. Lamar Jackson and The Ravens ran 88 plays and put up 12 points.

Jackson attempted 59 passes, only threw one touchdown, but also threw two picks and lost a fumble. 12 points on 59 pass attempts should tell you all you need to know about Lamar as a QB when the lights are the brightest.

Nobody would bat an eye if before the game, soneone told us Pat would put the ball up 59 times. Matter of fact, id be pretty excited to see how many points and yards he would put up in that span of plays.

When things got bad for both QBs, you saw the odds on favorite to win the MVP this year get visible frustrated, press, and ultimately fold. He was nowhere to be seen trying to work out what was happening, rallying his team, he simply pouted on the sideline as his team fell further behind.

The reigning MVP had literally no quit. Its one thing to say after the fact, that we had faith all along, its quite another for that to be true.

Down 24, think about that for a moment. 24. Mahomes is captured, in that moment on the sideline saying we have everything we want. Everyones already counted us the **** out, so go do something special.

Then, to walk the walk after talking the talk, leading the team to 7 straight touchdowns and 8 scoring drives, throwing 5 touchdown passes, and displaying a fiery emotion that if you dont feel anything when you see this kid going nuts after a huge play, call the coroner, because youre already dead.

The two qbs could not be further apart. Jackson cannot hold Mahomes jock when it comes to putting the team on his back.

Lamar should consider signing with KC as a running back. Its the only way barring injury to Mahomes, that hes ever getting a ring.

Mahomes is the MVP. Its not even close. Lamar is a running back executing the halfback pass play about 20-25 times a game.

Jacksons first two years have ended with dud playoff performances.

Mahomes first two years as a starter sees his team hosting back to back AFC title games for a frachise that in its entire history never hosted a single one before he arrived.

Last edited by Wallcrawler; 01-16-2020 at 10:50 AM..
Posts: 6,936
Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Wallcrawler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 08:44 AM   #886
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.
Posts: 81,323
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 10 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 09:33 AM   #887
RealSNR RealSNR is online now
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.

I mean the first part of that is still the major defensive strategy when going up against Mahomes.

But that’s just the best of a bunch of bad solutions
Posts: 90,541
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 10:58 AM   #888
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
Consuming CP souls
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Chiefs put 8 in the box daring Lamar to throw. You can't pay a QB that much money and it be that easy to stop him
Posts: 68,686
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 11:21 AM   #889
KCJake KCJake is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
People sometimes talk about how certain players or people for that matter, have the "it" factor. So, Lamar Jackson doesn't have "it."
Posts: 4,548
KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 11:28 AM   #890
KCJake KCJake is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
When the opposing defenses gameplan involves "keeping the QB in the pocket and wanting him to beat them by throwing the football" you need to start looking elsewhere for a QB.
Crazy he's a two time MVP getting compared to a guy that's in the greatest QB of all time discussion.
Posts: 4,548
KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.KCJake is not part of the Right 53.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 02:23 PM   #891
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
Consuming CP souls
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Lamar will never win a title...sorry Raven fans. I see you piece of shits rooting on the Niners on their boards butthurt much?
Posts: 68,686
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:11 PM   #892
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Nobody would trade Mahomes for Lamar straight up.
Or Josh Allen. Or Joe Burrow.

Would you trade CJ Stroud for him? I wouldn't. Trevor Lawrence? Herbert? Nope. Nope.

Lamar is a unique talent, but you have to build an offense to suit his abilities. I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket.

It's what someone's going to have to do if they want to win with Justin Fields, too, he just can't run an NFL offense and beat you by making the reads and delivering the ball.
Posts: 17,559
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:19 PM   #893
Buehler445 Buehler445 is offline
Supporter
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Scott City KS
I might take a gamble on Herbert or Lawrence. They’re close to entering Jay Cutler territory and Lamar can at least win.
Posts: 56,843
Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Buehler445 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:19 PM   #894
Rainbarrel Rainbarrel is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Mar 2021
He's a Taysom Hill needing some Drew Brees
Posts: 8,108
Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.Rainbarrel wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:23 PM   #895
DRM08 DRM08 is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
Nobody would trade Mahomes for Lamar straight up.
Or Josh Allen. Or Joe Burrow.

Would you trade CJ Stroud for him? I wouldn't. Trevor Lawrence? Herbert? Nope. Nope.

Lamar is a unique talent, but you have to build an offense to suit his abilities. I don't want to put all my eggs in that basket.

It's what someone's going to have to do if they want to win with Justin Fields, too, he just can't run an NFL offense and beat you by making the reads and delivering the ball.
CJ Stroud is really one to watch. His sharp accuracy, arm strength, and mobility are all pretty impressive. Stroud is just 1 month older than Caleb Williams, but Stroud already has a full year of NFL experience including 2 Playoff games under his belt. He's only going to be 23 years old in the 2024 season. They have a young and enthusiastic coach leading the team. Could be a very high ceiling for Houston.
Posts: 17,099
DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
Thumbs Up 4 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:42 PM   #896
seamonster seamonster is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Quote:
Originally Posted by DRM08 View Post
CJ Stroud is really one to watch. His sharp accuracy, arm strength, and mobility are all pretty impressive. Stroud is just 1 month older than Caleb Williams, but Stroud already has a full year of NFL experience including 2 Playoff games under his belt. He's only going to be 23 years old in the 2024 season. They have a young and enthusiastic coach leading the team. Could be a very high ceiling for Houston.

Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
Posts: 3,809
seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.seamonster wants to die in a aids tree fire.
    Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 06:49 PM   #897
DRM08 DRM08 is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Texas
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamonster View Post
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
He is much better at extending plays than Matt Ryan.
Posts: 17,099
DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.DRM08 wants to die in a aids tree fire.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 07:52 PM   #898
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamonster View Post
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
😂

No.
Posts: 17,559
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2024, 08:02 PM   #899
tredadda tredadda is offline
Three-Pat
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Colorado Springs
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamonster View Post
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.
A rookie Ryan isn’t taking that roster to a 10-6 record and an AFCS title with a dominating win over the Browns.
Posts: 17,083
tredadda has disabled reputation
Thumbs Up 3 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2024, 09:23 AM   #900
RealSNR RealSNR is online now
Special Teams ACE!!!
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Where the hell is SNR
Quote:
Originally Posted by seamonster View Post
Not impressed with the mobility. He ran for fewer yards than Herbert and was sacked nearly 40 times. Stroud is like a black Matt Ryan.

Lol what? Ryan was a total statue
Posts: 90,541
RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.RealSNR is obviously part of the inner Circle.
    Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:33 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.