Let's talk about the Ravens

[TLO]

Quite possibly a preview of the AFC Championship game.

Hopefully we can get healthy by Sunday

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The situation was much the same last year and the Chiefs basically blew their doors off in the first half.

The only real difference is the venue so I expect it to be a lot tougher than last year's game.

Last year was actually significantly worse.

The defense was learning a new scheme, Fisher was out (which means Erving was starting), Tyreek was out, Mahomes was playing on a bum ankle, we had no running game whatsoever etc.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The situation was much the same last year and the Chiefs basically blew their doors off in the first half.

The only real difference is the venue so I expect it to be a lot tougher than last year's game.

Yeah, you're right.

Though i think the Ravens are a little further along this time this year compared to last year.

But i don't anticipate the Ravens D giving our O too hard a time, unless they junk their whole scheme and copy what SD and SF do, and even then they don't have the horses to consistently pressure Mahomes.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, you're right.

Though i think the Ravens are a little further along this time this year compared to last year.

But i don't anticipate the Ravens D giving our O too hard a time, unless they junk their whole scheme and copy what SD and SF do, and even then they don't have the horses to consistently pressure Mahomes.

Statistically, the Ravens OL is significantly worse this year so far. They were the 3rd best run blocking line and 8th best pass protection line last year. So far this year, they’re 17th and 31st respectively. Granted, this is just though 2 games.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yeah, you're right.

Though i think the Ravens are a little further along this time this year compared to last year.

But i don't anticipate the Ravens D giving our O too hard a time, unless they junk their whole scheme and copy what SD and SF do, and even then they don't have the horses to consistently pressure Mahomes.

Unless you think they're gonna pull a bunch of elite level pass rushers out of their ass it isn't the scheme.

[smithandrew051]

The Browns hit Jackson 8 times and sacked him twice. The Browns hit Burrow 8 times and sacked him three times. Also, keep in mind that Burrow dropped back to pass 64 times and Jackson dropped back to pass 27 times.

The Texans hit Jackson 13 times and sacked him 4 times. The Texans hit Mahomes 3 times and sacked him once.

The Chiefs should absolutely be able to get pressure on Jackson. Any less than 12 QB hits and 3 sacks would be disappointing.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The defense was learning a new scheme, Fisher was out (which means Erving was starting), Tyreek was out, Mahomes was playing on a bum ankle, we had no running game whatsoever etc.

No Pennel...which against the Ravens is a huge improvement. I think Clark was playing hurt too...

Ravens fans gloss over that Hill didn't play...and Mahomes was gimpy.

Hill forces teams to change how they defend the Chiefs..

[Truzzz]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Before someone says it, this is only through 2 weeks.

Buuuuuuttttt.....

The vaunted Ravens offensive line currently ranks 31st in pass protection (10.7% adjusted sack rate, which is ****ing terrible) and 17th in run blocking (4.3 adjusted line yards).

Having played the Texans also and a much better second opponent defense, the Chiefs offensive line ranks 2nd in pass protection (2.8% adjusted sack rate) and 7th in run blocking (4.7 adjusted line yards).

Our line is Dogs**t. I said this yesterday, it's getting all the praise for Lamar making plays under pressure. Lamars saving the line 2-4 sacks minimum a game.
We've had no real push when running the ball outside of gadget plays. There's a podcast that tracks a stat called ample time and space. It's basically percentage of snaps they have a clean pocket for 3 seconds. Ravens are around 20%.

The line is crap.

[Coochie liquor]

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

You asked. We answered.

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— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens) September 23, 2020

This is their Super Bowl, it’s ****ing week 3. They’re desperate, gonna lead to heartbreak for them AGAIN!!

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

No Pennel...which against the Ravens is a huge improvement. I think Clark was playing hurt too...

Ravens fans gloss over that Hill didn't play...and Mahomes was gimpy.

Hill forces teams to change how they defend the Chiefs..

We also didn't have Fisher. Cam ****ing Erving was protecting Mahomes' blind side.

[Hydrae]

I have not read all the posts in this thread but wanted to say that I think we finally see some screens in this game. I am excited to see what CEH brings with this option!

[Megatron96]

After just watching NFL'com's GamePass Coaches film I'm feeling a little better about our defense and in particular our LBs, so I deleted my earlier post/rant about Hitchens and Wilson.

I posted a more specific analysis over in the "Hitchens" issue thread, but the bottom line is that after watching that, and putting on an extra nic patch so I could think straight, I think our run defense is going to be fine.

There's definitely some issues, and I think Pennel is going to make up some of the difference, but overall our guys aren't playing nearly as badly as I thought during the game.

The lack of preseason games is really showing among our LBs, but towards the end of even the first half of the Chargers game you can see that they were beginning to get right. I think they'll play much better on Monday.

That's not to say that we'll stuff the Ravens running game, because I don't think that's possible. But I don't think our defense won't give up 200 yards on the ground either.

On a different tack, have we heard anything about Ward's availability today?

[keg in kc]

We may actually see an actual offensive gameplan this week. Because I thought weeks 1 and 2 looked like what you'd normally see them roll out for preseason weeks 1 and 2.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Taco played really well the other day.

I didn't notice him much while I was watching the game, but now I see that he forced the pressure that led to Herbert bailing from the pocket and throwing that game changing INT. I also noticed on the box score that he notched a sack. I don't remember that at all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

I didn't notice him much while I was watching the game, but now I see that he forced the pressure that led to Herbert bailing from the pocket and throwing that game changing INT. I also noticed on the box score that he notched a sack. I don't remember that at all.

He had several pressures as well I believe.

[Megatron96]

Wharton played fairly well also in his limited snaps.