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Direckshun · 01-03-2017, 12:25 AM

First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight.

DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame
6'4", 230 lbs
26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards

I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence.

Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina
6'3", 220 lbs
30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards

Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.

**The Franchise** · 12-22-2017, 11:32 AM

You're going to have to trade up to get him. Good luck with that.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-22-2017, 11:53 AM

Elway is on a mission, folks.

Broncos GM John Elway and top deputy Matt Russell attending Potato Bowl today in Boise. Wyoming QB Josh Allen is game’s featured player. #9sports
— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) December 22, 2017

GloucesterChief · 12-22-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Elway is on a mission, folks.

Broncos GM John Elway and top deputy Matt Russell attending Potato Bowl today in Boise. Wyoming QB Josh Allen is game’s featured player. #9sports
— Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) December 22, 2017

Elway is gonna draft another bust in the 1st round sounds like.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-22-2017, 03:31 PM

Two TD passes on four completions for Allen so far...

Quesadilla Joe · 12-22-2017, 03:44 PM

Six completions, three TD's.

Quesadilla Joe · 12-22-2017, 03:58 PM

Is six completions with three touchdowns good? pic.twitter.com/Z38iZZV5oN
— Nicki Jhabvala (@NickiJhabvala) December 22, 2017

Sweet Daddy Hate · 12-22-2017, 04:58 PM

Ah yes, MOAR lukewarm Elway-Dungver QB bust action!

MAKE IT RAIN, JOHNNY-BOY!

BryanBusby · 01-01-2018, 09:25 PM

1. Rosen
-Big Gap-
2. Darnold
3. Jackson
4. Mayfield
-Another Gap-
5. Allen
-Grand Canyon-
The rest

Rosen is the only QB I'd really feel comfortable about starting early and being able to win. Too bad for the Browns that I think he'll refuse to be a Brown.

Jackson has great natural talent and I think is capable of being an NFL QB, Bobby Petrino has no interest in teaching those skills. If the Chiefs didn't go Mahomes, I'd of liked to have seen what Andy could do with Lamar.

Darnold needs to go back to school another year and work on a lot of issues, but has enough natural arm talent to still go early.

I don't know if I like how Mayfield will translate and Josh Allen

Black Bob · 01-01-2018, 09:48 PM

Mayfield is an arrogant prick. He's Jeff George waiting to happen.

OKchiefs · 01-01-2018, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Bob

Mayfield is an arrogant prick. He's Jeff George waiting to happen.

Kind of like you

Quesadilla Joe · 01-02-2018, 02:01 PM

From Eric Galko...

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Two teams to watch in a Rosen trade-up are the Bills and Chargers.

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It’s possible (but not likely) that the Browns will want to draft him in the top five. But Mayfield has plenty of fans around the NFL. He’s a lot more like Russell Wilson and Drew Brees than Johnny Manziel, and NFL teams firmly believe that. Nearly every team in the top 14 will be interested, led by the Broncos or Redskins (whichever doesn’t sign Kirk Cousins), Bills (in a trade-up), Jets and Browns. It’d be a surprise if he drops below the top 14 picks.

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Quarterback/team pairing predictions based on what I’ve heard: Rosen-Giants, Mayfield-Redskins or Broncos, Allen-Steelers, Jackson-Jets, Rudolph-Chargers, White-Bills, Luke Falk-Patriots, Kyle Lauletta-Packers.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news...v130v4xuwokguq

**Buehler445** · 01-02-2018, 11:08 PM

Mayfield and Brees are virtually nothing alike. And that’s not a knock on Mayfield. I actually think he could be a pretty good pro. He at least has as good of chance as anybody. It’s not like Manziel who everyone outside the state of Ohio (and Hog Farmer) knew would fail

Mecca · 01-03-2018, 02:54 PM

Draft Josh Allen go ahead, he has a less than 60% completion rate and the history of those guys is bad, very bad.

Bewbies · 01-03-2018, 04:16 PM

Did Mayfield ever throw into tight windows? During the Rose Bowl he looked super accurate when the guys were wide open, but missed a lot of guys when they weren't.

Admittedly, I haven't watched him much, the douche is just too much to take.

kccrow · 01-03-2018, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Mayfield and Brees are virtually nothing alike. And that’s not a knock on Mayfield. I actually think he could be a pretty good pro. He at least has as good of chance as anybody. It’s not like Manziel who everyone outside the state of Ohio (and Hog Farmer) knew would fail

Manziel had more talent than most of the QBs in the NFL right now. His problem was between the ears, and you can't fix stupid.

01-03-2017, 12:25 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch	QB Impressions First glances at several QBs we're going to give a shit about over the next four months. Feel free to set me straight. DeShone Kizer, Notre Dame 6'4", 230 lbs 26-9 TD-INT, 59%, 2925 passing yards I get a Cutlerian vibe from this guy. Seems to be built like a franchise QB. Powerful arm, some beautiful passes, perfect bodytype. But he is lacking an "it" factor, is he not? He's not a world-beating, overcome-the-odds, particularly spiriting QB. Looks like he could have an okay career in the NFL in which he wins nothing of consequence. Mitch Trubisky, North Carolina 6'3", 220 lbs 30-6 TD-INT, 69%, 3748 passing yards Well if there was one Andy Reid QB in this entire draft, it's Trubisky, isn't it? Super accurate, doesn't take too many risks with the ball, is very mentally tough and very athletic. He's a slam dunk for the Chiefs to trade up for, if he lasts to the 20s, but in a QB-starved NFL with at least 6 new head coaches looking for their QB, there's no chance he lasts to us.
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12-22-2017, 11:53 AM	#737
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Elway is on a mission, folks. Broncos GM John Elway and top deputy Matt Russell attending Potato Bowl today in Boise. Wyoming QB Josh Allen is game’s featured player. #9sports — Mike Klis (@MikeKlis) December 22, 2017
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12-22-2017, 03:31 PM	#739
Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Two TD passes on four completions for Allen so far...
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Quesadilla Joe Abolish The Salary Cap! Quesadilla Joe's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2008	Six completions, three TD's.
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Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2008	Ah yes, MOAR lukewarm Elway-Dungver QB bust action! MAKE IT RAIN, JOHNNY-BOY!
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01-01-2018, 09:25 PM	#743
BryanBusby In Search of a Life BryanBusby's Avatar Join Date: Mar 2006	1. Rosen -Big Gap- 2. Darnold 3. Jackson 4. Mayfield -Another Gap- 5. Allen -Grand Canyon- The rest Rosen is the only QB I'd really feel comfortable about starting early and being able to win. Too bad for the Browns that I think he'll refuse to be a Brown. Jackson has great natural talent and I think is capable of being an NFL QB, Bobby Petrino has no interest in teaching those skills. If the Chiefs didn't go Mahomes, I'd of liked to have seen what Andy could do with Lamar. Darnold needs to go back to school another year and work on a lot of issues, but has enough natural arm talent to still go early. I don't know if I like how Mayfield will translate and Josh Allen
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Black Bob Veteran Black Bob's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Mohawk Town	Mayfield is an arrogant prick. He's Jeff George waiting to happen.
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01-02-2018, 11:08 PM	#747
Buehler445 Supporter Buehler445's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS	Mayfield and Brees are virtually nothing alike. And that’s not a knock on Mayfield. I actually think he could be a pretty good pro. He at least has as good of chance as anybody. It’s not like Manziel who everyone outside the state of Ohio (and Hog Farmer) knew would fail
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01-03-2018, 02:54 PM	#748
Mecca Hockey Town Mecca's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri	Draft Josh Allen go ahead, he has a less than 60% completion rate and the history of those guys is bad, very bad.
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01-03-2018, 04:16 PM	#749
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Bewbies's Avatar Join Date: Apr 2010	Did Mayfield ever throw into tight windows? During the Rose Bowl he looked super accurate when the guys were wide open, but missed a lot of guys when they weren't. Admittedly, I haven't watched him much, the douche is just too much to take.
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