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Old 11-21-2018, 08:27 AM  
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NFL MVP... Brees or Mahomes

So, I think the race comes down to these two guys and could honestly support either winning it all. Take away either player and that team is going to suck. One has vastly better stats, one has fewer losses on the season (team stat).

67.5% Completion / 117.9 QBR / 3,628 yards / 37 TD / 10 INT (186 rushing yards / 2 TDs)
76.9% Completion / 126.9 QBR / 2,964 yards / 25 TD / 1 INT (28 rushing yards / 3 TDs)

Both have their teams at the top of their conferences. One is at the end of the road, the other just getting started. Brees has never earned an MVP and is breaking career records left and right.

Are you fine either way... do you feel that Mahomes without question is the MVP over Brees? Maybe this is the ultimate test of "does the leauge really hate KC"?
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:46 PM   #106
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if we would have marched down for a game winning drive Mahomie would be out front for the MVP

voters gonna brees it up
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:47 PM   #107
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Brees will get it. Mahomes really hurt his chances against the Rams.
I just can't get past that horrible 2 minute offense, this is on Reid too but Mahomes has to know time and situation. Throw that at the feet of Kelce and know the only thing you can't afford is an interception. I think this is what will ultimately cost him MVP as well.
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Old 11-21-2018, 02:57 PM   #108
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Better completion percentage; better QBR; 25 TDs to 1 interception; and he actually beat the Rams. I would vote for Brees without hesitation at this point.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:01 PM   #109
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Imagine mahomes' numbers if Reid wasn't afraid to blow teams out. Belichick runs up the score. Reid doesn't. If we ran up the score mahomes would have even more yards and TDs.
Dude...that's BS.

Do you not recall the Cinici game? I feel like i've said this before. It was just a few weeks ago.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:04 PM   #110
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I just can't get past that horrible 2 minute offense, this is on Reid too but Mahomes has to know time and situation. Throw that at the feet of Kelce and know the only thing you can't afford is an interception. I think this is what will ultimately cost him MVP as well.
He already would’ve had a GWD at 51-47 if Scandrick makes that pick
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:15 PM   #111
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Legit candidates;

Chiefs - Mahomes and Hill.
Rams - Gurley and Donald
Bears - Mack
Saints - Brees
No Luck?
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:17 PM   #112
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Dude...that's BS.

Do you not recall the Cinici game? I feel like i've said this before. It was just a few weeks ago.
And what about San Diego, Pittsburgh, Denver game 2, San Fran, Jacksonville, Cleveland. We had huge leads. Then mostly disappeared in the 4th quarter and I don't think it's because mahomes stopped playing well. We definitely sat on those leads, not running up the score.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:31 PM   #113
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He already would’ve had a GWD at 51-47 if Scandrick makes that pick
You will get no argument from me, this game could have taken a million different turns. I'm not sure we could have changed much at corner that wasn't done in the offseason. Scandrick has been decent at corner about the best you can do on short notice this year but ya I almost feel like we should have given up some draft picks for PP before the trade deadline.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:39 PM   #114
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I just can't get past that horrible 2 minute offense, this is on Reid too but Mahomes has to know time and situation. Throw that at the feet of Kelce and know the only thing you can't afford is an interception. I think this is what will ultimately cost him MVP as well.
He fumbled the ball twice, once for a touchdown.
He threw 3 interceptions, one for a touchdown and one to basically end the game.

All this during a Monday Night Game with the whole world watching. It has to hurt his chances.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:43 PM   #115
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He fumbled the ball twice, once for a touchdown.
He threw 3 interceptions, one for a touchdown and one to basically end the game.

All this during a Monday Night Game with the whole world watching. It has to hurt his chances.
Scandrick intercepts and it's a one interception and the sacks/strips are chalked up to the DPOY. Mahomes leads a 2 minute drive to win with no time on the clock and he avoids 2 picks and moves up with a 6 td/1int game winning drive scoring 58 points.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:47 PM   #116
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Scandrick intercepts and it's a one interception and the sacks/strips are chalked up to the DPOY. Mahomes leads a 2 minute drive to win with no time on the clock and he avoids 2 picks and moves up with a 6 td/1int game winning drive scoring 58 points.
So close to making it happen, right there for the taking.

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Old 11-21-2018, 03:50 PM   #117
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So close to making it happen, right there for the taking.

Sorry make that a 7 TD game, that might have locked up MVP for him right their.

Ifs and Buts, I just hope we learned for the playoffs from this experience.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:52 PM   #118
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Scandrick intercepts and it's a one interception and the sacks/strips are chalked up to the DPOY. Mahomes leads a 2 minute drive to win with no time on the clock and he avoids 2 picks and moves up with a 6 td/1int game winning drive scoring 58 points.
Mahomes keeps the ball tucked in with 2 hands while in the pocket.

Minus 2 fumbles, including the strip/sack for a touchdown fumble

We probably win then as well.


so close.
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Old 11-21-2018, 03:57 PM   #119
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Mahomes keeps the ball tucked in with 2 hands while in the pocket.

Minus 2 fumbles, including the strip/sack for a touchdown fumble

We probably win then as well.


so close.
Mahomes hits 7 td's last night that's almost a 3rd of Brees season total, but I digress I don't even care that much for the MVP award. I will settle for nothing less than a superbowl victory, then Brees can have his MVP and retire.
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Old 11-21-2018, 04:12 PM   #120
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Considering that the last 18 MVP’s (19 if you count 2003 when McNair and Manning shared it) have all lost in the playoffs, I hope that Brees gets it.
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