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Old 01-23-2019, 09:33 AM  
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Spagnuolo hired as DC




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Old 01-23-2019, 10:36 AM   #196
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you're completely off on Spags. Are you sure you're thinking of the same guy? He's blitz heavy, comes from anywhere at any time.
This is incorrect, Spags Defensive units have some of the lowest Blitz Percentages.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:37 AM   #197
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Yeah. Not sure this is an upgrade.

Andy, oh Andy.. Sigh.
Traded one old guy who can't just for another old guy who can't adjust.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:38 AM   #198
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:38 AM   #199
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:39 AM   #200
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Hey as long as it doesn't kill me, i'm willing to jump a few times.

Gibs to me moars
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:42 AM   #201
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I know this is what the league thinks. I get it.

But young coaches, especially the superstars, those ****ers are grinders man. They are 1,000 mph and they will kill themselves to get a shot at the big chair. They are so often out there providing the energy and the shot in the arm that an organization needs.

If I am looking for a "Head Coach of the Defense" then the EXACT guy I'm looking for is the hungry up and comer that will have the fire and energy and straight up hunger to go put forward the 100 hours that he needs to learn and create.

Not Romeo ****ing Crennel or Gunther or some other recycled old guy who thinks he has the answers already.

There's ample cause to flip that entire paradigm on its head and say that if you're looking for someone to turn the keys over to, the young guy is the way you SHOULD go.
Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:43 AM   #202
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After typing that name 3 times I realize why everyone just calls him Spags now.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 AM   #203
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 AM   #204
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I would also agree that I'm guessing this came from their agent to Schefter.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:44 AM   #205
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Yards = 20th
Points = 20th
Passing Yards = 19th
Rushing Yards = 20th
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #206
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Interesting to note with Spagnuolo ties is Andre Curtis of the Seahawks and Matt House the Kentucky DC a few have mentioned when talking about up and coming college coaches were both on Spagnuolo’s staff when he was HC of the Rams. 2009-2011.

Curtis has the title of Pass Game Co so unless his contract is up Pete wouldn’t let him go for a lateral move. Bringing in House as LB coach and bringing some fresh looks and ideas from college and possibly setting himself up as the future DC would be a good move imo
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #207
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https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2409512-steve-spagnuolos-scheme-familiarity-is-what-transitioning-giants-defense-needs[/URL]


I can't embed for some reason. Anyway, this is an article from 2015 and talks a lot about his scheme and concepts as he was returning to NY.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #208
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Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
Not wanting to take the risk got us stuck in slightly above average mediocrity for 5 years.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #209
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Maybe Reid just didn't want to take the risk? Let's say with Spagnuolo (already annoying typing this clown's name) the average outcome with low variance is we go from 32nd to 25th in defense. That's probably enough to get us to the Super Bowl.

Whereas with one of these exciting young guys, our average outcome could be similar but with much higher variability. What if the guy totally didn't work and our defense actually regressed and we didn't even make Divisional Round because of it?

I guess if I thought we were really far away from a Super Bowl, I'd be much more inclined to take the risk of one of these young guys. But Reid presumably knows exactly what he's getting with Spagnuolo which isn't a bad thing when we're this close. Add to that the fact that Reid probably wants to take a very hands-off approach with the defense and needs an adult in that role.

Not saying I like the decision, but I understand it. There are so many factors that are going to determine whether this is a successful hire or not, so I'm not inclined to have too strong of an opinion at this point one way or the other.
How does one regress from the position of worst?
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:45 AM   #210
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Did you guys really think he was going to go out of his comfort zone to hire someone?

It's Andy Reid we're talking about here.
And the main reason Mart.... I mean Fat Andy cant win the big games...
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