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Old 06-01-2014, 09:40 AM  
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Since a number of cool things are happening in space exploration these days, we'll widen the scope of this thread a smidge. Conversation about all things space exploration are welcome, whether it be from NASA, SpaceX, ULA, Blue Origin, or anyone else. Chances are most of the discussion will still be about SpaceX since they love to make things public and fun, but nothing's off limits. I'll eventually get around to modifying the OP to include resources for other companies too, but in the meantime, feel free to post any cool stuff you run across.

Lists of Upcoming Missions



How to Watch a Live Launch


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Old 08-13-2021, 12:44 PM   #4516
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Sure, there's no question that shit happens. You would just expect that they would have worked out when issues with valves were part of the problem last time.
Oh, I didn't know that valves were an issue before. I thought it was buggy code.
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Old 08-13-2021, 12:47 PM   #4517
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Oh, I didn't know that valves were an issue before. I thought it was buggy code.
Buggy code... related to the valves.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:27 PM   #4518
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Let's not forget though...
And don't forget, that was a previously flown test unit.
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Old 08-13-2021, 09:29 PM   #4519
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I'll be really curious what level of detail comes out of the press conference. I really want to know how a majority of the valves suddenly get stuck on the pad right before launch...
https://arstechnica.com/science/2021...-issue-solved/

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According to Vollmer, some of the NTO leaked through seals on the valves. Such leaks are well understood from a physics standpoint, Vollmer said. But then this oxidizer combined with some unanticipated ambient moisture in the cavity around the valve, and this resulted in corrosion that prevented the valves from opening properly.
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No way they launch until 2022 now.
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Old 08-16-2021, 09:36 AM   #4520
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Good lord. Can we just shut the place down?

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Old 08-16-2021, 09:48 AM   #4521
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There should be penalties for this kind of frivolous legal activity.
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There should be penalties for this kind of frivolous legal activity.
There probably will be, but it's not like money is the issue when it comes to Bezos.
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:26 AM   #4523
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There probably will be, but it's not like money is the issue when it comes to Bezos.
I was thinking more along the lines of debarment...

https://www.gsa.gov/policy-regulatio...rment-division
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:32 AM   #4524
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Good lord. Can we just shut the place down?

This is the argument from BO? Really?

Blue Origin last week released an infographic that added that Starship is “a launch vehicle that has never flown to orbit and is still being designed.”
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Old 08-16-2021, 10:42 AM   #4525
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I thought those infographics were more just trying to throw shade at SpaceX more than trying to further their complaint about HLS. Regardless it is all just a rich toddler throwing a tantrum.
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I thought those infographics were more just trying to throw shade at SpaceX more than trying to further their complaint about HLS. Regardless it is all just a rich toddler throwing a tantrum.
Right, but it's a pretty crappy argument for why BO should be included (if it is) since BO hasn't even achieved orbit and SpaceX has how many times now?
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It's kind of funny (and horrifying) to think what the space landscape would look like if BO had their way. Recall that they tried to argue that they had a patent on using a ship in the water as a landing platform. If they had won that argument, SpaceX might never have been able to figure out reusability.

Now they're trying to delay the moon work when there's not even a solution (not like NASA can suddenly come up with more money). At least it should only last a couple of months.
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Old 08-19-2021, 03:46 PM   #4529
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Ugh.
**** Bezos. I'm glad NASA was able to cut SpaceX a milestone check the day the GAO protest was rejected. SpaceX will continue working on SS anyway.
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Will BO sue SpaceX as they continue work on SS, since it can be represented as development on HLS?
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