***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Did not hear that. Interesting.

Christ almighty. Can’t imagine the NFL draft being the last sporting “event” to happen this year.

My god that would just suck ass

Well that's going to be the case.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

That's an excuse you can stay at home and still eat in a deficit plus it's free to exercise outdoors and the weather is beautiful!

LOL I understand that but lots of people eat out of boredom.

[Hammock Parties]

475 already today

probably hit 1K+

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Mecca

LOL I understand that but lots of people eat out of boredom.

Or if you get hungry again an hour later like in China.

[Donger]

For those who like history:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...h-flu-pandemic

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Or if you get hungry again an hour later like in China.

rice is rice

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Well that's going to be the case.

I’d place a pretty large wager that the NFL draft won’t be the last sporting event of 2020.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, you guys think they'll be playing anytime soon?

Man oh man the Royals new ownership group must really be taking a hit on this one.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by srvy

Man oh man the Royals new ownership group must really be taking a hit on this one.

They suck anyway this is just preventing another 100 loss season.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Well that's going to be the case.

Too early in the game to say anything with that level of confidence IMO. Right now things are looking dire, but we have no idea where this takes us. How bad will the carnage actually be? How contagious is it? How many of us already have had it and have immunity? Will therapies be available that can be taken early to greatly reduce the risk? We have general ideas on many of these questions, but no definitive answers. Once we do get answers to many of these questions over the next couple of months, only then will we have any sense of what we will be able or not be able to do in the fall.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

I think there’s some over lap on those though. It looks weird sometimes

Ya it seems like a moving 24hrs vs daily numbers.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

It's 100k - 240k total, not 240k in the next few days. People really need to quit watching fear porn. First they compared it 1918 where 20-50M died. Currently we are under 50k in the entire world. Little difference there. Then we got the predictions that went from 3M deaths in the US and has incrementally worked it's way down. I know people who have had Corona but none of them died or had any complications. On the other hand I know a ton of people who are having their life destroyed. Lost job and income. Losing their businesses.Look around you instead of at all the fear porn on TV. Lets put this in perspective.

Deaths in the US annually

Car accidents almost 40k
Heart disease 650k
Cancer 600k
Unintentional injuries 170k
Chronic lower respiratory disease 160k
Stroke and cerebrovascular diseases 147k
Alzheimers 125k
Diabetes 84k
The flu 61k
Kidney disease 52k
Suicide 50k

The Wuhan virus is killing 10's of millions of Americans but not in the way exploited by the media with their fear porn. Millions are losing their job, their homes, businesses and life savings. We do this long enough we could have a great depression, awesome. The chance that covid 19 is what's going to take you out is slightly above zero. The death rate no matter what it is projecting at this moment is a grain of sand on the beach of what could happen to the quality of life for all of us if people keep buying into this BS.

If left unchecked, Covid-19 would infect 40-70% of our population within a year. On the low side.

At a 2% case mortality rate, that is 331,000,000 x 50% = 165,000,000.

165,500,000 x 2% = 3,310,000 deaths.

That isn't even accounting for our hospitals getting over flowed and the lack of ventilators and medical supplies.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Ya it seems like a moving 24hrs vs daily numbers.

You said it better than I did lol

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by BWillie

If left unchecked, Covid-19 would infect 40-70% of our population within a year. On the low side.

At a 2% case mortality rate, that is 331,000,000 x 50% = 165,000,000.

165,500,000 x 2% = 3,310,000 deaths.

That isn't even accounting for our hospitals getting over flowed and the lack of ventilators and medical supplies.

Your math sucks since we don’t know what the mortality rate is because we have no idea how many people have actually been infected.

[Hammock Parties]

ICE Cold Fact: If somebody owes you money… Put on your mask and pop up at their crib right now… They’re Home.

— ICE T (@FINALLEVEL) March 31, 2020