***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

I can appreciate the positiveness of everyone but lots of states do not report over the weekends. That is one of the reasons Mondays have had higher numbers.

Is that still true? I know it was in the beginning, but I think most if not all states have been reporting this weekend.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

There is no proof that the heat has the affect some had hoped. There is still plenty of spreading happening around the equator.

It may not stop it completely, but I think the warmer weather will certainly play some factor. It does for almost every other respiratory virus on earth.

[petegz28]

Okay so one or two of you said we were going to have a day this weekend that 1000 people died in a single day. That has not even come close to happening. Do you feel better now?

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[eDave]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Okay so one or two of you said we were going to have a day this weekend that 1000 people died in a single day. That has not even come close to happening. Do you feel better now?

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Is everyone reporting through the weekend? I honestly don't know. If not, look for a bump on Monday but do the math(on Monday).

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by eDave

Is everyone reporting through the weekend? I honestly don't know. If not, look for a bump on Monday but do the math(on Monday).

Right now we would have to have a surge of 800 people die that have yet to be reported today. I don't think that's gonna even co,me close to happening. Yes, everyone is reporting.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Kudos to the President for extending the social distancing CDC recommendations till April 30th.

A paragraph I found interesting in regards to that press conference.

In response to a question at the briefing, Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, reiterated his estimate from earlier in the day that it remained possible that 100,000 to 200,000 people could die in the United States. "What we’re trying to do is not let that happen," he said, calling the extension of social-distancing guidelines "a wise and prudent decision." Over 2,300 people with the virus already have died in the U.S.

"Models are good, but models often generate the kind of anxious question you asked," Fauci said, when a reporter asked how bad the situation could become. "A model is as good as the assumptions you put into the model, and very often, many of these assumptions are based on a complexity of issues that aren't necessarily the same... from one country to another."

Fauci said the April 30 extension came after he, Dr. Deborah Birx and other members of the task force had made the recommendation.

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Okay so one or two of you said we were going to have a day this weekend that 1000 people died in a single day. That has not even come close to happening. Do you feel better now?

I don't trust any of these numbers but I especially don't trust weekend numbers. Monday and Tuesday will be big days for finding out where things are headed. We will see if the numbers jumped and more importantly we "should" start to see preliminary results from a number of clinical trials underway.

Unfortunately the MOST important data will come from serology tests and I have no clue when we will see any results from those.

[TLO]

I'm gonna ask a personal question - just for some light discussion.

My girlfriend and I live together with her 2 kids. She works full time as a manager at Target. Her work recently has been working to unload their truck shipments and get the items on the shelves. She has very little contact with actual customers. She is being very careful about washing her hands, not touching her face, etc.

I work for a company that provides care for individuals with developmental disabilities. I work 20 hrs in office, and 20 hrs at home. I am in the homes I oversee once or twice a week, but not for very long. I don't see very many people on a daily basis.

The kids have it the worst. They're stuck at home. (They have YouTube, video games, etc). But they want to go outside and play. We've been taking them out to areas where there aren't many people around to ensure they are healthy too.

Are there any other precautions we should be taking? We have been dining out (picking up) at local restaurants a lot, but not getting out of the house any more than that. Going to the grocery store I guess but that's it.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Please stop being a fear-monger

Being truthful is not fear mongering.

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[TLO]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Unfortunately the MOST important data will come from serology tests and I have no clue when we will see any results from those.

Bingo

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Okay so one or two of you said we were going to have a day this weekend that 1000 people died in a single day. That has not even come close to happening. Do you feel better now?

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I do.

Remain pretty happy that numbers seem down in a lot of places and NYC continues to have slow growth. LA mayor keeps telling us that we will have millions infected and maybe we will but so far the efforts to keep it in a box are having some success it seems.

Like that excellent video that was posted yesterday indicated it’s hard to figure out where the curve starts when you’re still be pulled up the side of the cliff, but hopefully it comes sooner than everyone expected.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I don't trust any of these numbers but I especially don't trust weekend numbers. Monday and Tuesday will be big days for finding out where things are headed. We will see if the numbers jumped and more importantly we "should" start to see preliminary results from a number of clinical trials underway.

Unfortunately the MOST important data will come from serology tests and I have no clue when we will see any results from those.

Why is it people grasp so easily onto the bad numbers but endlessly question anything to the contrary?

[jaa1025]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

There is no proof that the heat has the affect some had hoped. There is still plenty of spreading happening around the equator.

It would be very atypical behavior of a virus if the summer doesn't significantly slow the spread of COVID-19.

Dry winter air allows viruses to spread. Fewer water molecules are in the air to interfere with their projection when sneezed or coughed. Also, your nasal passage is dry which makes it less effective at fighting off viruses. Where are you spending most of your time in the winter? in doors where little particles of virus' float around for hours from people coughing and sneezing.

People tend get little to no vitamin D during the winter which has been linked to the flu and a weakened immune system in general. When the weather warms and days are likely you should be getting a lot more vitamin D.

Being cold actually reduces your body's ability to fight infection.

If the coronavirus behaves like most other viruses then as the sun grows stronger by day then it likely will slow the spread. China, lol, claims to have used UV light to combat the Coronavirus. As we move closer to the summer the UV energy we received will increase substantially.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

I do.

Remain pretty happy that numbers seem down in a lot of places and NYC continues to have slow growth. LA mayor keeps telling us that we will have millions infected and maybe we will but so far the efforts to keep it in a box are having some success it seems.

Like that excellent video that was posted yesterday indicated it’s hard to figure out where the curve starts when you’re still be pulled up the side of the cliff, but hopefully it comes sooner than everyone expected.

Let us hope, buddy.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Why is it people grasp so easily onto the bad numbers but endlessly question anything to the contrary?

Why is your way of thinking better than anybody else’s , people are going to see things in a way that might reflect their view point , some people just see them as numbers with no emotional aspect .


People are different .