***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Listen, you dumb ****, I already said it was stupid. It’s not against the law is what I said. If you’re such a scared pussy, lock yourself in your house and we’ll see you in a few months.

Just curious here. Did you see the video of the dude walking through a Wal-Mart in North Carolina bragging that he had just tested positive for Covid. He went on talking about the places he had been and the places he was still planning on visiting. He stated at one point that if he had everyone else should and that the people that should stay home were the old and people with poor health.
Anyway if you remember seeing that I wonder if you seen where the law chased him down with intent to prosecute him for that behavior?
Turned out dude was lying and did not test positive but he still got arrested and charged for his behavior.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Just curious here. Did you see the video of the dude walking through a Wal-Mart in North Carolina bragging that he had just tested positive for Covid. He went on talking about the places he had been and the places he was still planning on visiting. He stated at one point that if he had everyone else should and that the people that should stay home were the old and people with poor health.
Anyway if you remember seeing that I wonder if you seen where the law chased him down with intent to prosecute him for that behavior?
Turned out dude was lying and did not test positive but he still got arrested and charged for his behavior.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/u...rorism-nj.html

A New Jersey man was charged with making a terroristic threat after he intentionally coughed near a supermarket employee and told her he had the coronavirus, the authorities said on the same day that the Justice Department warned of similar threats to spread the virus.

The man, George Falcone, 50, of Freehold, N.J., was shopping for groceries at a Wegmans store in Manalapan, N.J., on Sunday evening when a worker asked him to move away from her and a food display because he was too close, the state attorney general, Gurbir S. Grewal, said on Tuesday.

The authorities said that Mr. Falcone leaned in close to the worker to cough and allegedly laughed, telling her that he was infected with the virus. Mr. Falcone later told two other store employees that they were lucky to have jobs, officials said.

Mr. Falcone was charged with making a terroristic threat in the third degree and fourth-degree of obstructing administration of law, Mr. Grewal said. Both charges are considered felonies in New Jersey.

The second charge stemmed from Mr. Falcone’s refusal to provide his name and driver’s license for 40 minutes to a police detective who had been part of a security detail at the supermarket, the authorities said. Mr. Falcone was also charged with harassment, they said. The authorities did not say whether Mr. Falcone actually has the virus.

“These are extremely difficult times in which all of us are called upon to be considerate of each other — not to engage in intimidation and spread fear, as alleged in this case,” Mr. Grewal said in a statement.

Mr. Falcone would face up to seven years in prison and a fine of up to $26,000 if convicted on all charges, the state attorney general said.

A lawyer for Mr. Falcone did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Wednesday. In a Facebook message to Reuters, Mr. Falcone denied making the threat.

[eDave]

Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"

Authorities say Moreno admitted to crashing the train intentionally, but said he did not plan in out in advance. It is believed that he acted alone.

He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."

Officials say video from inside the train's cab shows Moreno holding a lighted flare during the incident.

https://abc7.com/usns-mercy-coronavi...lment/6069395/

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by eDave

Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"

Authorities say Moreno admitted to crashing the train intentionally, but said he did not plan in out in advance. It is believed that he acted alone.

He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."

Officials say video from inside the train's cab shows Moreno holding a lighted flare during the incident.

https://abc7.com/usns-mercy-coronavi...lment/6069395/

WTF?

[R Clark]

What a dumb ass

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bwana

Damn. Did you jump back about 6 feet. like you were about ready to step on a rattlesnake?

Luckily I had double masks and a safe shield on

So I just kinda walked out and took a bleach shower

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by eDave

Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"

Authorities say Moreno admitted to crashing the train intentionally, but said he did not plan in out in advance. It is believed that he acted alone.

He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."

Officials say video from inside the train's cab shows Moreno holding a lighted flare during the incident.

https://abc7.com/usns-mercy-coronavi...lment/6069395/

Someone might oughta do a roll call in CPDC.

[Titty Meat]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mTqB83GeypKFxY

Wow if true

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

Engineer deliberately ran train off tracks in attempt to smash the USNS Mercy

Federal prosecutors allege train engineer Eduardo Moreno, 44, of San Pedro intended to hit the ship, saying he thought it was "suspicious" and did not believe "the ship is what they say it's for.'"

Authorities say Moreno admitted to crashing the train intentionally, but said he did not plan in out in advance. It is believed that he acted alone.

He allegedly made statements to a CHP officer that included "You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don't know what's going on here. Now they will."

Officials say video from inside the train's cab shows Moreno holding a lighted flare during the incident.

https://abc7.com/usns-mercy-coronavi...lment/6069395/

I know this has taken a toll on all of us but damn, he really went off the rails

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Personally someone should have just dropped the bitch cold.

Yell or spit at anyone right now - much less in a grocery - and you get what you get...pic.twitter.com/zzJa5PpFir

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) March 30, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Aneurysms and heart attacks aren't contagious.

I think you completely missed the ****ing point.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mTqB83GeypKFxY

Wow if true

no idea if true in Italy but it’s defintely not true in the USA.

There are multiple young people and older with no pre-existing conditions dying from coronavirus. See the post about Dr. Fauci on the podcast. They go from presenting with flu symptoms at the ER, to dead in 48 hours. They are outliers but they are starting to concern doctors like OTWP58’s doc and Dr. Fauci.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mTqB83GeypKFxY

Wow if true

Yeah. But how many Americans have 1 or more diseases? What even counts as a disease? Do mental disorders count? What about high cholesterol? Obesity? Etc etc etc..

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat

Yell or spit at anyone right now - much less in a grocery - and you get what you get...pic.twitter.com/zzJa5PpFir

— Rex Chapman🏇🏼 (@RexChapman) March 30, 2020

**** yeah that is what needs to be done to people more often. It might cut down on some of the stupid shit.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mTqB83GeypKFxY

Wow if true

I truly believe that. I remember reading a couple of weeks ago a doctor in Italy said that the majority of people who died in Italy were probably going to die in the next couple of months anyway from something and this jut happened to be it.