Tesla unveil Semi, new Roadster, & also teased a "pickup truck"

[aturnis]

Anyone watch the unveil last night?



The numbers on the semi destroyed what anyone thought possible.

- 0-60 in 5 sec
- 0-60 in 20 sec under max gross payload of 80k lbs
- 65mph up 5% grade under max lied, compared to 45mph for ICE semi
- 500 mile range
- 400 miles of additional range after 30 min charge
- Guaranteed 7¢/kWh fuel cost(solar) compared to volatile oil
- Nuclear explosion proof glass(apparently cracked windshield takes semi off road)
- 1 million mile guarantee it won't breakdown
- Will never need a brake change
- "Impossible" to jacknife
- Beats semis on economics day 1
- In convoy mode, beats rail on economics

300 miles of range: $150,000
500 miles of range: $180,000
Founders series: $200,000




https://youtu.be/CBTQnmUolas
The Roadster was a complete surprise, and the numbers given destroy any production car you can think of, even a Koenisegg.

- 0-60 in 1.9 sec (this is faster than most Formula 1 cars)
- 0-100 in 4.2
- 1/4 mile in 8.9 sec
- 250+ mph top speed
- 621 mile range (That's Kansas City to Denver without fueling)
- 10,000 nm torque

and that's the base model. Starting at $200k and Founders series at $250k. Destroys million dollar cars.



Also teased a rendering image of a consumer pickup truck with a normal truck in the bed.

https://youtu.be/5n9xafjynJA

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by aturnis

They tried the battery swap route. Both they and the public weren't huge fans. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if they don't do it for the Semi though. A lease agreement on the batteries could bring down the initial investment for buyers and reduce their unfounded anxiety on battery life.

How does one get access to the batteries to swap them? This whole platform must be removed and then cells can be accessed.

[vailpass]

That "pickup truck" is ridiculous looking. I'll keep my real vehicles.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by vailpass

That "pickup truck" is ridiculous looking. I'll keep my real vehicles.

Likewise, that thing looks like a bad Mad Max knockoff.

[JakeF]

Originally Posted by DaFace

If nothing else, I love that Tesla is pushing everyone else to get better. Hopefully they can figure out their production issues sooner than later.

Pushing everything forward is what matters. Musk is slowly doing what our worthless Congress refuses to do by getting America off of gasoline.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by vailpass

That "pickup truck" is ridiculous looking. I'll keep my real vehicles.

I imagine it's actually to take place of medium duty trucks like Isuzu and Fuso etc. Shouting it as a pickup, but will likely have multiple options for beds in various lengths.

[cooper barrett]

it's a box truck not a pick up

I will wait to see what Cummins brings out. There have been electric trucks spotted around here recently.

I am in the crowd... Where's Cooper?

[Rain Man]

As someone who drives cars, I'm not sure that I want to share the road with semis that have really fast acceleration.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

As someone who drives cars, I'm not sure that I want to share the road with semis that have really fast acceleration.

or one that probably will need new brakes and interior fabric when the "never need brakes again" truck goes down the grade he bragged about it going up....

[morphius]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

it's a box truck not a pick up

I will wait to see what Cummins brings out. There have been electric trucks spotted around here recently.

I am in the crowd... Where's Cooper?

Cummings already came out with theirs, 100 mile range

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

or one that probably will need new brakes and interior fabric when the "never need brakes again" truck goes down the grade he bragged about it going up....

EV's typically need brake jobs far less often than gas-powered cars due to regenerative braking.

[prhom]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

Just lift out the battery pack, sure tell your wife to run to the store for beer and while she is at it swap the batteries.



You can thank me for pointing this out because if you said it anywhere else but CP you would be flamed

I know it’s not a 9-volt battery powering the car. I said they should be considering how to make the batteries swappable. Clearly they are not right now. You would need some infrastructure and powered lift equipment but they need to consider that especially for the trucks. Have them lower from under the vehicle so you drive over a pit like an oil change and they lower the batteries on a hydraulic lift or something like that.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by morphius

Cummings already came out with theirs, 100 mile range

Its a class 7 used for regional shipping. I think they are increasing that and adding on the road charging options to it. It is there first rodeo in electric.

With 140 kWh, the pack brings a range of just 100 miles—although Cummins says that’s extendable to 300 miles with additional (modular) battery packs.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by DaFace

EV's typically need brake jobs far less often than gas-powered cars due to regenerative braking.

I was talking about surviving "widow maker" downhill grades on regenerative braking. No, no, no, give me some bad ass brakes and not electric ones either...

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by cooper barrett

I was talking about surviving "widow maker" downhill grades on regenerative braking. No, no, no, give me some bad ass brakes and not electric ones either...

Well, sure, but you realize they have "real" brakes too, right? They just don't need them as much.

[cooper barrett]

Originally Posted by prhom

I know it’s not a 9-volt battery powering the car. I said they should be considering how to make the batteries swappable. Clearly they are not right now. You would need some infrastructure and powered lift equipment but they need to consider that especially for the trucks. Have them lower from under the vehicle so you drive over a pit like an oil change and they lower the batteries on a hydraulic lift or something like that.

It will be interesting but a service center can easily pull a cab off for access and quickly too,,, A few bolts an a couple of wiring loom connections and you can hoist it off, do same with semi tractors now.