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Old 02-28-2024, 11:57 AM   #2
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We saw a lot of this last year, but it's sure hard to reconcile some of it. For example, we regularly hear players rave about how great our training staff is - Rick Burkholder in particular - and we regularly have guys come back from injury more quickly than expected. But then they get an F on this report? It doesn't pass the sniff test unless all those players are just outright lying.
They work them and get them back playing quickly. Seems the players think they "push them back to quick".
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:58 AM   #3
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They work them and get them back playing quickly. Seems the players think they "push them back to quick".
Sure, but that's more like a "B-" or "C" kind of rating. An "F" implies that they're ****ing horrible at their jobs and the entire place should be cleaned out.
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Old 02-28-2024, 11:58 AM   #4
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We saw a lot of this last year, but it's sure hard to reconcile some of it. For example, we regularly hear players rave about how great our training staff is - Rick Burkholder in particular - and we regularly have guys come back from injury more quickly than expected. But then they get an F on this report? It doesn't pass the sniff test unless all those players are just outright lying.

maybe the survey was worded poorly

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Old 02-28-2024, 12:49 PM   #5
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We saw a lot of this last year, but it's sure hard to reconcile some of it. For example, we regularly hear players rave about how great our training staff is - Rick Burkholder in particular - and we regularly have guys come back from injury more quickly than expected. But then they get an F on this report? It doesn't pass the sniff test unless all those players are just outright lying.
There are some glimpses of what could lead to this discrepancy from comments OBJ Jr and Hardman made this season.

OBJ Jr. talked about how the training staff treats every game “like a playoff game” and said they were “old school” in their approach in working with players to get them “game ready.” Interestingly, this was meant to be a negative, as he said the Bengals were hands off and believed in letting the players rest until they were ready.

Mecole talked about this in a similar way, but said he appreciated the Chiefs approach after being with the Jets. He talked about how the Jets training staff was way more “relaxed” with the players and as such, practices were often disorganized and players were missing in action during drills.

Sounds like Andy and Rick run an old school ship. I could see how it could lead to really divisive reactions from players used to a different approach on a new team or from college - but looking at how our players health has held up with 6 straight playoff runs, it’s hard to argue with the results.

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Old 02-28-2024, 12:51 PM   #6
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There are some glimpses of what could lead to this discrepancy from comments OBJ Jr and Hardman made this season.

OBJ Jr. talked about how the training staff treats every game “like a playoff game” and said they were “old school” in their approach in working with players to get them “game ready.” Interestingly, this was meant to be a negative, as he said the Bengals were hands off and believed in letting the players rest until they were ready.

Mecole talked about this in a similar way, but said he appreciated the Chiefs approach after being with the Jets. He talked about how the training staff was way more “relaxed” with the players and as such, practices were often disorganized and players were missing in action during drills.

Sounds like Andy and Rick run an old school ship. I could see how it could lead to really divisive reactions from players used to a different approach on a new team or from college - but looking at how our players health has held up with 6 straight playoff runs, it’s hard to argue with the results.
Players are ****ing soft.

They would have walked off the team during a Marty camp.
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Old 02-28-2024, 12:59 PM   #7
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Players are ****ing soft.

They would have walked off the team during a Marty camp.
In case you missed it, society isn't the same. If you did that shit now you'd get fired immediately.
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:01 PM   #8
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In case you missed it, society isn't the same. If you did that shit now you'd get fired immediately.
It's a shame. The product is now worse, and the players get paid more.
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:09 PM   #9
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It's a shame. The product is now worse, and the players get paid more.

Worse for whom? The league and the players are making more money than they ever have and the games are watch by more people than ever.
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Old 02-28-2024, 01:13 PM   #10
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Worse for whom? The league and the players are making more money than they ever have and the games are watch by more people than ever.
Watering any product down always gives it more mass appeal.
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