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Old 09-16-2018, 05:41 PM   #2
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The D was fine until NY had the zebras get involved. -5 yards on their first two possessions.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:52 PM   #3
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The D was fine until NY had the zebras get involved. -5 yards on their first two possessions.
That was a very small sample size greatly helped by PIT shooting themselves in the foot. I sure would like to see actual footage of the penalty taking away the TD though. Scandrick didn't seem too upset though. Seemed like he knew it was the right call.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:56 PM   #4
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That was a very small sample size greatly helped by PIT shooting themselves in the foot. I sure would like to see actual footage of the penalty taking away the TD though. Scandrick didn't seem too upset though. Seemed like he knew it was the right call.
The “right call” is the one that had no impact on the actual play and lead to a 14 point swing.

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Old 09-16-2018, 06:01 PM   #5
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The “right call” is the one that had no impact on the actual play and lead to a 14 point swing.

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Penalties get called all the time that have no impact on the play. The rule book doesn't allow you to just ignore it because it didn't matter. The ref also doesn't know in the moment that it doesn't matter.

Look I want to see a replay as much as anyone. If it's a crap call then I'm all for the cries of foul. But the argument that it didn't affect the play has no impact on defensive holding decisions and it shouldn't.

Nobody has actually seen the play to know what the right call was.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:41 PM   #6
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Draft a corner and a safety with our first two picks next draft.


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Old 09-16-2018, 05:49 PM   #7
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:50 PM   #8
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some of you have said it already, but-

1) Send a minimum of 4 at all times. I'd like to attack gaps more and less head-up read-and-react crap. More one gap looks and stunts. Attack, attack, attack. Shoot those gaps, disrupt the play. Bring that 4th from different places; outside and inside backers. Switch it up. If you happen across a runner with the ball on your way to the QB, tackle him. You, as a defense, force the offense to deal with you, rather than sitting back and seeing what they want to do. Bury the 2-3-6. Make it a rare occasion that you don't send 4 or 5; so that when you do, it's a surprise rather than the usual. You'll give up some big plays, but you'll also get some 3-and-outs and TO's. At any rate, it's better to get beat quick than get worn out.

2)In obvious passing situations, I want to see Jones and Speaks at DE. Kpass/Ford at one OLB, Houston at the other. Hitchens as your nickel backer, mixed with O'Daniel. Time to learn, kiddo.

3)It's time for Watts. He'll make mistakes, but Murray is awful.

At the very least, you'll make opposing QB's uncomfortable, get rushed throws and some INT's.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:52 PM   #9
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Do you guys think they're waiting to move Watts in until Berry's back?

No more waiting.
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:53 PM   #10
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Old 09-16-2018, 05:55 PM   #11
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To add, obviously a 4-3 makes more sense with a new DC. We don't have any ****ing personnel for a 3-4. Every project DL guy we take isn't suited for either 34 DE or OLB. Tear it down, build around Jones as a DT and Hitchens as our MLB. 34 has basically never worked for us, ever. We've always been terrible against the run and similar vs the pass outside of Houston's monster season.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:06 PM   #12
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To add, obviously a 4-3 makes more sense with a new DC. We don't have any ****ing personnel for a 3-4. Every project DL guy we take isn't suited for either 34 DE or OLB. Tear it down, build around Jones as a DT and Hitchens as our MLB. 34 has basically never worked for us, ever. We've always been terrible against the run and similar vs the pass outside of Houston's monster season.
Well, we (and most of the NFL really) aren't really in a base defense of any sort all that often. Most teams run a ton of 3 or more wide that puts you in the nickel or dime right out of the gate. I don't think 3-4 vs. 4-3 will make any real difference. Now, one gap or two gap, that's relevant. zone blitz concepts certainly. Rushing 3 or sometimes 2 is my real frustration.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:12 PM   #13
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Trade draft picks (plural) to pick up a secondary player or two. Even if we don’t get the best value. We can win it all this year with just a little more talent in the defensive backfield...
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:15 PM   #14
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Well, we (and most of the NFL really) aren't really in a base defense of any sort all that often. Most teams run a ton of 3 or more wide that puts you in the nickel or dime right out of the gate. I don't think 3-4 vs. 4-3 will make any real difference. Now, one gap or two gap, that's relevant. zone blitz concepts certainly. Rushing 3 or sometimes 2 is my real frustration.
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Old 09-16-2018, 06:02 PM   #15
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Not sure the draft will help, because apparently we don't even play the guys we draft (O'Daniel, Speaks).
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