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DenverChief · 01-16-2009, 04:59 PM

that Pioli is in negotioans with Mike Shanahan

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I just called the studio, and the call screener said it is a rumor that they have spoken.

Mile High Mania · 01-17-2009, 02:43 PM

Yeah, RedBull types as if Mike was coaching in Detroit... he called all the shots in Denver and had an owner that let him do as he pleased.

RustShack · 01-17-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

I'm sorry, was he not in a good situation in Denver? Did I miss something? Good players good front office, good owner...

no championship since Elway left.

No Championship since he gained GM responsibilities.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't know that Shanahan really wants all that much power anymore. I think he probably just wants to coach and to win some more championships.

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.

melbar · 01-17-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack

No Championship since he gained GM responsibilities.

OK, but other than having a Running game, putting vasoline on players uniforms, cut blocking, and watching Elway pull inhuman throws out of his arse, what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

RustShack · 01-17-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

OK, but other than having a Running game, putting vasoline on players uniforms, cut blocking, and watching Elway pull inhuman throws out of his arse, what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

Winning two Super Bowls?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Backing Pioli as the GM was the smart choice in terms of talent AND name, but as far as Coaches are concerned; I'd MUCH rather see a young up and coming guy with fresh ideas who can bring kind of a "We are Marshall" trip to the Chiefs.

Only Carl, Herm, Dickie, Gun, and Krummy die in the plane crash though.

ADDENDUM:

Said plane crashes in to Shanahan's new digs, taking him out as well.

It's for your own good Chiefs Nation.

melbar · 01-17-2009, 03:37 PM

Because of that great team and a HOF QB. His teams have been less than inspiring since. The tactics of his sb teams 10 yrs ago taint that imho.

CrazyHorse · 01-17-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

Ok, but I just don't see that changing much. I think it would have to be the right scenario and I think that would be a team like Dallas more than KC. It will be interesting to see what happens.

You say he wants power. Only on the raiders do you have less power as HC than Dallas. Jerry Jones runs everything on that team.

Hammock Parties · 01-17-2009, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by melbar

what great coaching feat did he complete before taking over GM responsibilities?

Winning a shit-ton of games?

Where do people get off talking like Shanahan is a mediocre coach?

**alanm** · 01-17-2009, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

No way this happens if Shannahan wants personnel control which I'm sure by now Shanny has learned his lesson of wearing too many hats in the previous org. Shanny the GM got Shanny the Coach fired.

Hands down Shanny is the best X's and O's guy 'offensively' and not to mention the best QB teacher(ala-could improve Thigpen tremendously) in the NFL. Pioli and Shanny have great admiration for one another and Shanny has always wanted to work with Gunther because he greatly respects him. Shanny really likes the Chiefs young core of talent coming up (Flowers,Carr,Bowe,Dorsey). Shanny I would think at this point would think I can just be a football coach and leave all the other stuff(GM,personnel) to somebody else and I have 45mil under the cap, Pioli,Gunther, good core of young talent and Arrowhead stadium.

I don't want him if he wants personnel control though.

I would be OK with Gun coming back if a new HC would let Gun run HIS attack style defense instead of the shitty hybrid cover 2 shit that Herm made him run. If the abortion of a _efense that was unveiled on the field this past fall was all Guns doing and not mandated by Herm, then I want Gunther's head on a platter.

Fritz88 · 01-17-2009, 04:05 PM

not too shabby.

**alanm** · 01-17-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

Yep.

Hiring the Rat just to watch Donko fans squirm when the Chiefs play them is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Go to the Minge and see how many people are truly upset about his firing.
It's close statistic-wise to the number of Chiefs fans that want to keep Herm.

Keep the Rat's Epic Stale the hell away from my team.

It was and is still about 50/50 over the Rat being fired. The Pro side being lead mostly by Taco.
I think he's a good coach who should of stayed focused on coaching and stayed away from personnel.
That and he needs to stay away from defense.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 01-17-2009, 04:17 PM

You know what? **** this; it's time to get serious. I was hoping someone would hit on this but since there are no takers present, I'm gonna' do the job.

When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, they came back the next year, moved in to a new stadium, and haven't seen a Super Bowl since.

When Denver won their 2nd title, the same thing happened.

When you have a Championship Franchise, you don't sit on your ass in the off season and hope for another repeat. We've hired a guy who's only purpose in life is to build that Championship Team, and keep the roster moving along through the years so that a backslide is avoided.

Mike Shanahan does NOT know how to do this. And I don't think for a NY-Minute that he's going to just sit back and be happy with whatever players Pioli sends his way.
The guy couldn't control Cutler to keep that Douche from embarrassing himself and the franchise either.
It's also obvious he doesn't know how to get his players fired-up either.

His "burst" is G-O-N-E. Shanahan to KC? I'd rather drink cat-piss.

Taco John · 01-17-2009, 04:18 PM

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

FringeNC · 01-17-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Taco John

I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.

Why in your opinion was he fired?

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Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Sweet Daddy Hate's Avatar Join Date: Aug 2008	You know what? **** this; it's time to get serious. I was hoping someone would hit on this but since there are no takers present, I'm gonna' do the job. When the Chiefs won the Super Bowl, they came back the next year, moved in to a new stadium, and haven't seen a Super Bowl since. When Denver won their 2nd title, the same thing happened. When you have a Championship Franchise, you don't sit on your ass in the off season and hope for another repeat. We've hired a guy who's only purpose in life is to build that Championship Team, and keep the roster moving along through the years so that a backslide is avoided. Mike Shanahan does NOT know how to do this. And I don't think for a NY-Minute that he's going to just sit back and be happy with whatever players Pioli sends his way. The guy couldn't control Cutler to keep that Douche from embarrassing himself and the franchise either. It's also obvious he doesn't know how to get his players fired-up either. His "burst" is G-O-N-E. Shanahan to KC? I'd rather drink cat-piss.
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Taco John Sapere Aude Taco John's Avatar Join Date: Jun 2001	I personally think Shanahan was building a Superbowl team in Denver. It's true that he's let the defense go while he focused his efforts on offense - especially the last two years when he liquidated Jake Plummer and started to build a team around Jay Cutler. But right now the Broncos have a powerful young offense and we're moving into this offseason with more cap money and draft picks than we've had in a decade to spend primarily on defense... And at that, Shanahan's personnel guy (Goodman) has done a superb job the last two years - probably better than anyone in the league. You'll note that while Shanahan was fired, we kept his personnel guy - effectively making him the team's GM.
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