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Old 10-09-2017, 10:39 AM   #2
gonefishin53 gonefishin53 is offline
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When Alex and the Chief's management agreed to a contract extension, both sides knew Alex could be released or traded in Feb. 2018 if Chiefs management have a suitable replacement lined up. Trading up to get Mahomes and see him prove himself in preseason satisfies the suitable replacement requirement.

If Alex isn't traded or released, it seriously reduces the value of Mahomes rookie contract because it eliminates the cap relief the Chiefs would receive by trading or releasing Alex. Alex balling out makes a trade more likely. A second day draft pick is preferable to a $20 million cap hit when Mahomes has shown outstanding potential to run AR's offense.
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Old 10-09-2017, 10:43 AM   #3
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With his current performance and (surprise surprise) the 18 QB class looking more iffy, the Chiefs are going to get a first round pick out of Alex.
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Old 10-09-2017, 12:10 PM   #4
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With his current performance and (surprise surprise) the 18 QB class looking more iffy, the Chiefs are going to get a first round pick out of Alex.
I would trade him for a 1st.
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:52 AM   #5
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I would trade him for a 1st.
That's what I keep trying to tell you.

Teams will pay if Alex plays like he has been. Yes, for a QB in his mid-30s who's owed $18 million. If you think it's reasonable for the Chiefs to pay for wasting Mahomes' cheap rookie deal so they can start Alex another year or two beyond 2017, then it's reasonable for other teams to pay a 1st round pick for Alex if they don't have anything at the QB position.

Sam Bradford, man. And Sam Bradford ****ing sucks. He always has.

Alex Smith doesn't suck. He's just older.
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Old 10-09-2017, 01:27 PM   #6
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If the Jags make the playoffs.....they won’t have a chance to grab a QB next year. They could take a run at Cousins if he’s out there but I’d send Smith there for a low 1st.
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Old 10-09-2017, 06:42 PM   #7
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yet Andy has said Alex can remain until he retires.

You honestly think Clark Hung is going to dump the winningest QB over the last few season?


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Old 10-09-2017, 07:32 PM   #8
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yet Andy has said Alex can remain until he retires.

You honestly think Clark Hung is going to dump the winningest QB over the last few season?

Andy says a lot of things. In fact, Andy is a master at saying absolutely nothing while speaking. He's really good at it.

I think Clark Hunt likes Texas and soccer balls.
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Old 10-10-2017, 07:54 AM   #9
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Hell, what if we get a 1st AND CHANGE for Alex?

If Jacksonville needs a new QB and they only have a low 1st rounder from making the playoffs, make them chip in a WR they're not using. Or an extra 3rd or 4th. Something like that.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:10 AM   #10
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Hell, what if we get a 1st AND CHANGE for Alex?

If Jacksonville needs a new QB and they only have a low 1st rounder from making the playoffs, make them chip in a WR they're not using. Or an extra 3rd or 4th. Something like that.
I'd be inclined to take Bortles as a backup, but unfortunately his 5th year option number is prohibitive. He has flashed some ability from time-to-time and I think ol' Andy could make something worthwhile out of him.

I do, however, wonder if they'd be willing to deal Dante Fowler. He's' going into the final year of his rookie deal and the Jags would be on the hook for about half of his contract amount, he'd only cost 3.6 million. He hasn't been all-world so far, but he's had a solid start to the season this year as a backup with 4 sacks. He's only 23. If they'd deal Fowler and a 2nd, I'd be happier than a pig rolling in shit.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:09 AM   #11
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I just struggle to think a team would pay a 1st for him.

But what do I know.
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Old 10-10-2017, 08:24 PM   #12
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I just struggle to think a team would pay a 1st for him.

But what do I know.
Really???

As much drafting and FA as you shove down your gullet year in and year out, and you can't see that?!?!?

Damn...
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Old 10-10-2017, 10:34 AM   #13
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If Alex keeps this up, he'll have over 30 TD's and 4,000+ passing yards. Unless he bombs in the playoffs, you stick with the hot hand.

DJ isn't playing with a $10 million cap hit next year and Tamba will be expendable. I really don't see a need to spend a lot of money in FA next year anyway. It really hasn't worked. Who are the big money guys that we've signed that have been worth the contract? I'm only seeing Mitchell Schwartz so far.

The team we have is the most talented overall in the NFL. Just sign our own guys like Albert Wilson (team friendly small contract), Bennie Logan, Terrance Mitchell and Mitch Morse to new deals with their cap hits coming after 2018.

You know what we need to do? Draft players for right ****ing NOW, not development players.

Use the draft to get our depth players and bolster the team.
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Old 10-10-2017, 02:55 PM   #14
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Planet experts want a trade... Anything to get Mahomes behind center... Injuries/death to Alex we've seen it all... It's a ever ending cycle of douche. Funny part is Alex is ing the **** out of them.
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Old 10-10-2017, 03:12 PM   #15
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Planet experts want a trade... Anything to get Mahomes behind center... Injuries/death to Alex we've seen it all... It's a ever ending cycle of douche. Funny part is Alex is ing the **** out of them.
Much truth to this.

And there is no guarantee that Mahomes would even pan out. Just look at Pre-Season Kizer vs regular season reality.
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