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Old 01-28-2019, 08:07 AM   #2
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If he's relying on being schemed open then he's not top class. The better rb's don't need to be schemed open, THEY DOMINATE either way. I hope you can fathom my point this time.
I got it in the first place. I think you're misguided.

RB's always do well in Reid's scheme. Always. Because, as you say, they are 'schemed open'.

Hunt had some particular physical attributes, notably outstanding balance. Damien Williams is a good receiver, pass blocker, shifty runner with some power and 'want to'. He produces like a top 10 back projected over a full season. You also have Darrel Williams, who has looked like an excellent power back in limited duty. And Ware, who just a couple of years ago was your #1 back and has 4 years now in the offense. If you had to, West has also been decent. You have a stable of RB's that can all produce.

Statistically speaking, however, we lost absolutely nothing when Hunt left. The production didn't drop off.

When you have a top flight offense with everyone returning, including depth at RB, and a #31 ranked defense, you don't spend draft capital or FA money on RB's. Even with Hunt here, RB is like the 3rd option of this offense.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:26 AM   #3
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I got it in the first place. I think you're misguided.

RB's always do well in Reid's scheme. Always. Because, as you say, they are 'schemed open'.

Hunt had some particular physical attributes, notably outstanding balance. Damien Williams is a good receiver, pass blocker, shifty runner with some power and 'want to'. He produces like a top 10 back projected over a full season. You also have Darrel Williams, who has looked like an excellent power back in limited duty. And Ware, who just a couple of years ago was your #1 back and has 4 years now in the offense. If you had to, West has also been decent. You have a stable of RB's that can all produce.

Statistically speaking, however, we lost absolutely nothing when Hunt left. The production didn't drop off.

When you have a top flight offense with everyone returning, including depth at RB, and a #31 ranked defense, you don't spend draft capital or FA money on RB's. Even with Hunt here, RB is like the 3rd option of this offense.
Well firstly Ware is a free agent this offseason and is unlikely to be back. Secondly Williams has been in the league for a while now and this is his best ever period of production and why is that? It's because he's scheme reliant imo and isn't someone who's natural ability can change a game like Kareem could. Tbh I would be stunned if the Chiefs follow your logic and don't get a new rb. Yes, the defense needs attention but there is no harm in strengthening your strength (offense) a little more too.
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Old 01-28-2019, 08:59 AM   #4
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Well firstly Ware is a free agent this offseason and is unlikely to be back. Secondly Williams has been in the league for a while now and this is his best ever period of production and why is that? It's because he's scheme reliant imo and isn't someone who's natural ability can change a game like Kareem could. Tbh I would be stunned if the Chiefs follow your logic and don't get a new rb. Yes, the defense needs attention but there is no harm in strengthening your strength (offense) a little more too.
prepare to be stunned.

Only so many cap dollars to go around. Big, gaping holes on defense and only so many draft picks.

mid to low round RB pick, sure, perhaps. More likely a small school UDFA.
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Old 01-28-2019, 10:19 AM   #5
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prepare to be stunned.

Only so many cap dollars to go around. Big, gaping holes on defense and only so many draft picks.

mid to low round RB pick, sure, perhaps. More likely a small school UDFA.
No-one is saying they should bring one in in Fa. You implied that we shouldn't bring one in at all, so you seem to have changed your tune with that last statement. I believe they would take one in the third round if a decent one drops there.
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Old 01-30-2019, 07:58 AM   #6
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No-one is saying they should bring one in in Fa. You implied that we shouldn't bring one in at all, so you seem to have changed your tune with that last statement. I believe they would take one in the third round if a decent one drops there.
they'll bring in guys at every position every year. I'll bet they even invite a QB or two to camp.

I'm saying RB is not a priority; we have 2 that have played well and two more that we could re-sign that are average to above average if we want. There will be UDFA's in camp, and perhaps a late round pick because that's how you run an NFL franchise.

There's not a NEED at the position. If you want to talk about offensive needs, we will likely NEED a C, could use a G, and have only one TE.

On defense, we likely need 4 or 5 guys, depending on who we keep of the higher paid older cats; most of whom are injured a lot. Most of whom I would imagine, they let go.
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Old 01-30-2019, 08:03 AM   #7
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they'll bring in guys at every position every year. I'll bet they even invite a QB or two to camp.

I'm saying RB is not a priority; we have 2 that have played well and two more that we could re-sign that are average to above average if we want. There will be UDFA's in camp, and perhaps a late round pick because that's how you run an NFL franchise.

There's not a NEED at the position. If you want to talk about offensive needs, we will likely NEED a C, could use a G, and have only one TE.

On defense, we likely need 4 or 5 guys, depending on who we keep of the higher paid older cats; most of whom are injured a lot. Most of whom I would imagine, they let go.
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