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Old 12-08-2020, 11:08 PM  
htismaqe htismaqe is offline
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WTF, Amazon?!?!

So I logged into my Amazon account this evening to order some razor blades and noticed that in my product browsing history is the Ravens/Cowboys game.

Why is that odd?

Because I didn't watch it on Amazon Prime. I didn't watch it via any streaming service. I didn't watch it on a smart TV, I didn't even watch it on a connected device.

I watched it OTA on a regular TV. I know those stupid smart home devices can hear you when you say their name and I'm sure they listen to my conversations on occasion but are they listening to what I'm ****ing watching on TV?
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Old 12-09-2020, 09:58 AM   #46
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This wasn't simple heartbeat stuff, it was streams of outbound traffic.
Interesting. Would be interesting to know what the payloads were outbound. Like Fish said, these things have been thoroughly tested. If that kind of behavior were commonplace, people would be all over it in the net press.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:01 AM   #47
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You really don't even have to use Wireshark if you have a firewall or something sitting in the data stream. You can see the voice transmissions as clusters of UDP packets coming in. Most of the other data is TCP.
I use Wireshark to sort through the pcap files captured by my firewall. It makes it a little easier, since the firewall I have doesn't offer many filtering options.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:03 AM   #48
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I use Wireshark to sort through the pcap files captured by my firewall. It makes it a little easier, since the firewall I have doesn't offer many filtering options.
Right, I'm just saying you kind of know when it is transmitting voice capture because you'll see a large influx of UDP packets that aren't normally there.

If you actually want to see what they are, you gotta use pcap.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:07 AM   #49
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Haven’t they gathered data from these things in stuff like murder investigations in the past?

If that’s true, that tells me these devices are always listening....
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:08 AM   #50
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I believe it comes from your router at home. Ties in all the family's stuff or whoever's using your wi-fi. For example:

My mother in law recently stayed at our place due to a dispute with her husband/Mother in law. After being at our house for a few days and using our home Wi-Fi I started getting divorce lawyer adds on my FB feed. Seems silly but they were Asian divorce attorney adds (my MIL is Asian). Seems my MIL was looking up divorce attorneys.

These devices track everything because most/all people scroll through the lawyer mumbo jumbo and click YES, I agree.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:10 AM   #51
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These devices track everything because most/all people scroll through the lawyer mumbo jumbo and click YES, I agree.
That's a big part of it for sure. People don't read EULA's by and large.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:13 AM   #52
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Honestly, it would be extremely hard in today’s world to live off the grid completely.

You would basically have to become a Ted Kaczynski. Move to the mountains, live off the land and cut off all contact with other humans.
I have a farm in iowa if you are interested. I would like to evict the renter.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:23 AM   #53
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Now just imagine what Amazon and Siri know and want to suggest about your porn history.


Hey Siri, what does htismaqe need?
H-t-m-howeeverthr****yiusayit needs....to give it a day off before he breaks it
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:31 AM   #54
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I have a farm in iowa if you are interested. I would like to evict the renter.
How close are the closest neighbors and can I make corn mazes in my spare time?
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:33 AM   #55
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If it's a smart TV then it will know what OTA channels you watch I assume. After that, given the time and location, it would know what programming you were watching.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:34 AM   #56
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If it's a smart TV then it will know what OTA channels you watch I assume. After that, given the time and location, it would know what programming you were watching.
It's not a smart TV.
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Old 12-09-2020, 10:34 AM   #57
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Now just imagine what Amazon and Siri know and want to suggest about your porn history.


Hey Siri, what does htismaqe need?
H-t-m-howeeverthr****yiusayit needs....to give it a day off before he breaks it
I don't watch porn.

I make porn.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:08 AM   #58
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How close are the closest neighbors and can I make corn mazes in my spare time?
half mile. But the farm ground is rented by the neighbor. You would have to ask him.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:11 AM   #59
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It's not a smart TV.
Reading is hard.
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Old 12-09-2020, 11:37 AM   #60
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Did you get rid of your phone too? This is the world we live in now, it's either this or be a hermit.
No way, I let that thing listen to everything we watch black mirror together.
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