McDowell: Why The Chiefs Pursuit to Renovate Arrowhead Has Hit A Snag

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

of course you can't really put a stadium in a dense urban area without giving people a way to get to and from it, and lol it's not like we're going to build passenger rail or improve the bus network or anything like that. so moving the stadium will likely involve tearing down buildings to build parking which doesn't really solve the problem with arrowhead's current location

That's the rub right there.

It's would be a traffic/parking nightmare.

Majority of people @ Arrowhead don't need a bars/restaurants.

Chiefs fans take great pride in tailgating, which included food and drink.

[Dunerdr]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

Basically because parking lots are a terrible use of land. You put a stadium downtown where all the stuff is because people come to see a game, which lasts 3 hours, and then do stuff before and after the game, like go to bars or stay at hotels. Those things, unlike parking lots, generate tax revenue which can be used for all sorts of things.

I would miss the old stadium and be nostalgic for it, but having a stadium in an undeveloped area with a parking lot that's like 4x the size of the stadium itself is a huge waste.

of course you can't really put a stadium in a dense urban area without giving people a way to get to and from it, and lol it's not like we're going to build passenger rail or improve the bus network or anything like that. so moving the stadium will likely involve tearing down buildings to build parking which doesn't really solve the problem with arrowhead's current location

**** that downtown parking is a nightmare. Much prefer Arrowhead and Jerry world venues for parking, because they have dedicated parking.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

Basically because parking lots are a terrible use of land. You put a stadium downtown where all the stuff is because people come to see a game, which lasts 3 hours, and then do stuff before and after the game, like go to bars or stay at hotels. Those things, unlike parking lots, generate tax revenue which can be used for all sorts of things.

I would miss the old stadium and be nostalgic for it, but having a stadium in an undeveloped area with a parking lot that's like 4x the size of the stadium itself is a huge waste.

of course you can't really put a stadium in a dense urban area without giving people a way to get to and from it, and lol it's not like we're going to build passenger rail or improve the bus network or anything like that. so moving the stadium will likely involve tearing down buildings to build parking which doesn't really solve the problem with arrowhead's current location

This is a horrible idea. I am a long time season ticket holder and would give them up in a heartbeat if I had to fight traffic in a city area, and pay way more to park reasonably close to the stadium on gamedays. Then sit in traffice for an hour while I try to get on the road for my 3 hour drive back. All the season ticket holders around me live an hour or more from the stadium and would feel the same way.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

This is a horrible idea. I am a long time season ticket holder and would give them up in a heartbeat if I had to fight traffic in a city area, and pay way more to park reasonably close to the stadium on gamedays. Then sit in traffice for an hour while I try to get on the road for my 3 hour drive back. All the season ticket holders around me live an hour or more from the stadium and would feel the same way.

THIS. I've attended dozens of games at Wrigley and Soldier Field over the years, and driving to those games absolutely sucks balls.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

This is a horrible idea. I am a long time season ticket holder and would give them up in a heartbeat if I had to fight traffic in a city area, and pay way more to park reasonably close to the stadium on gamedays. Then sit in traffice for an hour while I try to get on the road for my 3 hour drive back. All the season ticket holders around me live an hour or more from the stadium and would feel the same way.

San Diego does just fine.

In fact, parking is 20-40 depending on the lots. tons of restaurants and bars within WALKING distance of the entrance to Petco as well.

but yeah, you need good trolley/public transit to get 25% or more of the attendance there.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by DJJasonp

San Diego does just fine.

In fact, parking is 20-40 depending on the lots. tons of restaurants and bars within WALKING distance of the entrance to Petco as well.

but yeah, you need good trolley/public transit to get 25% or more of the attendance there.

I've stayed in the Gaslamp and went to Petco many times. That's baseball, with 30,000 folks some nights, and 15,000 or less on many. Also have the tram running about 8 blocks from there as you said. KC would be a disaster, especially with measureable snow.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

This is a horrible idea. I am a long time season ticket holder and would give them up in a heartbeat if I had to fight traffic in a city area, and pay way more to park reasonably close to the stadium on gamedays. Then sit in traffice for an hour while I try to get on the road for my 3 hour drive back. All the season ticket holders around me live an hour or more from the stadium and would feel the same way.

Well yeah that's kinda my point, a downtown stadium wouldn't work and there's no way that the infrastructure to make it work would happen

Keep the stadium where it is and develop around it would be a better solution