Looks like Spagnuolo [favorite for] DC

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Former Giants’ DC and HC Steve Spagnuolo has emerged as the favorite to replace Bob Sutton as the Chiefs’ defensive coordinator, per sources.

Spagnuolo and Andy Reid worked together in Philadelphia, share the same agent and have a mutual respect for each other’s work.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 23, 2019

The #Chiefs are hiring Steve Spagnuolo as their new defensive coordinator, sources say. The former #Giants DC and interim HC/#Rams HC began his NFL coaching career as an #Eagles assistant under Andy Reid. Now rejoins Big Red in KC.

— Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) January 24, 2019

[O.city]

Another thing we haven't really talked about much, but the damn chiefs don't have a first rounder contributing on the defense from the past 4 drafts.

How the **** does that happen?

[BryanBusby]

They uh started their dynasty on the backs of some HoF caliber guys on Defense.

Originally Posted by O.city

Another thing we haven't really talked about much, but the damn chiefs don't have a first rounder contributing on the defense from the past 4 drafts.

How the **** does that happen?

2 1's for a QB, trading out of the first the prior year and not putting a lid on the other one....well yeah that'll do it.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I would take Rex Ryan before Spags, but neither one really are exciting hires. Rex Ryan has built a #1 Defense and Spags just hasn't (top 5 though), with some trash tiers mixed in.

Rex's defense scares the shit out of me. Arguably more behind the times than grandpa Bob. Two gap space eaters when today's DL needs pass rushers and pocket collapsers. Slow Ragland ILBs at a time when you need speed at ILB. Complex Blitz packages when many defenses need to attack. It may not make you feel any better about spagnuolo, but hopefully relieves anxiety about passing on Rex.

[Sassy Squatch]

Originally Posted by O.city

Another thing we haven't really talked about much, but the damn chiefs don't have a first rounder contributing on the defense from the past 4 drafts.

How the **** does that happen?

Peters is gone.
Traded down to 37 to draft Jones when we should've just stayed put.
Mahomes took 2 1sts.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

Kind of thinking about this last night, but once you get to the playoffs, how many actual defenses do you trust to shut down a tested vet qb?

I mean, we put 31 on the Hood in a half. I just don't know what you can do.

Did you see some of the throws that Mahomes had to make to do that? Lord, just look at his last two throws to tie the game back up. Mahomes went into God mode and when he's there, nobody is going to stop him or really even slow him down.

But Tom Brady wasn't in God mode. He was throwing picks with a clean jersey. He completed maybe 3 or 4 passes the whole game that had a genuine degree of difficulty (not including the one that Hogan just flat tore from the heavens...****ing Hogan).

I don't expect a DC that can go out there and shut down a guy who's playing unconscious football. But I would expect one that can at least say "well hell, maybe an 18 yard shell to a team that will GLADLY body punch me to death isn't a great idea afterall..."

My bar's not that high here, man. Brady wasn't playing out of his mind on Sunday - the Chiefs just made it far too easy for him. If Brady had been playing the Patriots defense and Mahomes playing the Chiefs defense, that game is 50 something to 20 something.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Rex's defense scares the shit out of me. Arguably more behind the times than grandpa Bob. Two gap space eaters when today's DL needs pass rushers and pocket collapsers. Slow Ragland ILBs at a time when you need speed at ILB. Complex Blitz packages when many defenses need to attack. It may not make you feel any better about spagnuolo, but hopefully relieves anxiety about passing on Rex.

Ragland is a guy that pretty much fell apart, but you sort of need space eaters if you want to have a Defense that isn't shit. I don't understand why you seem to hate stopping the run.

No complex system to help stop it, or big bodies to help stop it. But they better ****ing stop it!!!!!!!

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Ragland is a guy that pretty much fell apart, but you sort of need space eaters if you want to have a Defense that isn't shit. I don't understand why you seem to hate stopping the run.

No complex system to help stop it, or big bodies to help stop it. But they better ****ing stop it!!!!!!!

why do you hate stopping the run, bro?

[Chris Meck]

There are lots of ways to skin a cat. Whichever way it goes, at least we're attempting a different way than the previous, which was clearly not working.

[In58men]

I bet we don’t sign Spags, if we don’t this thread should be in the Hall of Panic.

[RunKC]

Reading the tea leaves here.

-Andy likes to teach.
-He wants teachers on his staff.
-Despite a disastrous defense, we were an A. offsides and B. Coin flip from the Super Bowl.

There was no teaching from Sutton. Nobody knew what they were supposed to do. His gameplanning sucked, his adjustments sucked, his leadership sucked.

I mean FFS look at this. This is an embarrassment. Horribly implemented, horrible defensive call. Horrible everything.

Have you ever seen this many open receivers? #NEvsKC pic.twitter.com/Xq9CfZtYQR

— Josh Cohen (@jco3215) January 23, 2019

[Jamie]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Dude. There are some pretty serious situational shitshows that have nothing to do with Spags and his scheme in both of those years.

2012 the head coach and defensive coordinator are both suspended by the league. Spags steps in, tries to pilot the ship. Not his groceries, not his staff, not his team, totally ****ed situation.

For the record, Spagnuolo replaced Williams as DC before Bountygate fully broke (Williams left to be Fisher's DC with the Rams). Spagnuolo was hired in January, the suspensions came down in March. He inherited the defensive staff, but that's pretty common when a team with an established head coach hires an outside coordinator. Which, by the way, is also the situation he'll be in if he's hired here.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Did you see some of the throws that Mahomes had to make to do that? Lord, just look at his last two throws to tie the game back up. Mahomes went into God mode and when he's there, nobody is going to stop him or really even slow him down.

But Tom Brady wasn't in God mode. He was throwing picks with a clean jersey. He completed maybe 3 or 4 passes the whole game that had a genuine degree of difficulty (not including the one that Hogan just flat tore from the heavens...****ing Hogan).

I don't expect a DC that can go out there and shut down a guy who's playing unconscious football. But I would expect one that can at least say "well hell, maybe an 18 yard shell to a team that will GLADLY body punch me to death isn't a great idea afterall..."

My bar's not that high here, man. Brady wasn't playing out of his mind on Sunday - the Chiefs just made it far too easy for him. If Brady had been playing the Patriots defense and Mahomes playing the Chiefs defense, that game is 50 something to 20 something.

Yeah, I get that. I agree.

****, if Ford lines up right we're talking about how we picked Brady 3 times and came back from down 2 scores to go to the SB.

That was just an awful defensive effort and gameplan we put out there. We didn't even do an asstastic terrible job stopping the run, they only got about 3.4 or whatever per carry. We should let them run 94 ****ing plays. That's my problem with the whole bend but don't break thing. When you bend bend bend then break, you can absolutely put your defense in such a shit spot.

The Pats play smart defensive football. They just don't **** up. Theres a lot of value in just not ****ing up.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Reading the tea leaves here.

-Andy likes to teach.
-He wants teachers on his staff.
-Despite a disastrous defense, we were an A. offsides and B. Coin flip from the Super Bowl.

There was no teaching from Sutton. Nobody knew what they were supposed to do. His gameplanning sucked, his adjustments sucked, his leadership sucked.

I mean FFS look at this. This is an embarrassment. Horribly implemented, horrible defensive call. Horrible everything.

Have you ever seen this many open receivers? #NEvsKC pic.twitter.com/Xq9CfZtYQR

— Josh Cohen (@jco3215) January 23, 2019

Good God almighty look at all that backpedaling. The whoooole gaaaaame our DBs were running backwards. Just maddening as hell.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Have you ever seen this many open receivers? #NEvsKC pic.twitter.com/Xq9CfZtYQR

— Josh Cohen (@jco3215) January 23, 2019

JFC this video is so Sutton... the Patriots are at the Chiefs 35 yard line, and he has the secondary playing 20 yards downfield.

Just let them walk into the end zone, Bob... which is pretty much what happened.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, I get that. I agree.

****, if Ford lines up right we're talking about how we picked Brady 3 times and came back from down 2 scores to go to the SB.

That was just an awful defensive effort and gameplan we put out there. We didn't even do an asstastic terrible job stopping the run, they only got about 3.4 or whatever per carry. We should let them run 94 ****ing plays. That's my problem with the whole bend but don't break thing. When you bend bend bend then break, you can absolutely put your defense in such a shit spot.

The Pats play smart defensive football. They just don't **** up. Theres a lot of value in just not ****ing up.

You would just be bitching about how werthers let the Rams score 60 in the Super Bowl. Don't get worked up on Dee being stupid.